river spot with top 2 pair

yb

pretty much readless on villain. he was multi-tabling (at least 5/6 because he was on most of my other tables) and i think i've played him a couple of times before but i've not got any history vs him. he'll probably see me as pretty aggressive and i'm going to be double barrelling this board a really high % of the time because it's a great card for me to continue on.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£385.32
SammyD	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£99.00
	Your hole cards	K Q
yb	Raise		£4.00	£5.50	£198.67
gerrard9	Fold
hhamza162	Fold
mantock93	Fold
x	Call		£3.50	£9.00	£381.82
SammyD	Fold
Flop
		Q 7 3
x	Check
yb	Bet		£6.00	£15.00	£192.67
x	Call		£6.00	£21.00	£375.82
Turn
		K
x	Check
yb	Bet		£14.00	£35.00	£178.67
x	Call		£14.00	£49.00	£361.82
River
		4
x	Check
yb	Bet		£36.00	£85.00	£142.67
x	Raise		£96.50	£181.50	£265.32

DOHHHHHHH

lol fuuuuu for even thinking about folding this.

Put me in a bad mood

YOUNG_GUN

unless he has a set you win

I'd shove , could have AK? im hoping he would raise the turn alot with sets or overpair, could be wrong

like i say im shoving but i suck

DOHHHHHHH

^^^^^

Why is shoving better than calling?

U prob just been relegated to a moth.

yb

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

lol fuuuuu for even thinking about folding this. Put me in a bad mood
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

lol, but what do you think a random reg raises this river with?

unknown_username

Shove will only be called by set surely? Call or fold.

yb

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

unless he has a set you win I'd shove , could have AK? im hoping he would raise the turn alot with sets or overpair, could be wrong like i say im shoving but i suck
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

if he gets to the river with AK this way he's never doing anything other than c/cing

DOHHHHHHH

He's bluffing!!!!

They're ALWAYS bluffing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could have the same hand as you I suppose.

debdobs_67

Interesting hand here as the flop , and turn is still a rainbow so the only way oppo would keep callin here is surely with a set ?? OR a total bluff , ya gotta call tho xx

TommyD

Pretty much a perfect flop and turn to slowplay a set on.  Not saying I fold though, I'm a curious little station.

beaneh

If he cant raise river with 74 two pairs etc then we have to do a fold....

DOHHHHHHH

Do you guys never consider bluffs?

rancid

56,set,bluff - god knows

Don't understand no turn raise, he gotta be raising turn with sets

feels like 56 or bluff

still call though could be AK/Bluff/KQ  

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

Do you guys never consider bluffs?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

NEVER , unless of course ure the OPPO )

Die_hard

Strange hand methinks. Would put him on kq also, or if he's a tard then AA. Obviously could have a set or (less likely imo) a bluff.

Edit: If you know the outcome then he's never got KQ lol (else I presume you wouldn't be posting it )

He could also have a tardy QQ too lol.

If you know the player then KQ, if not then AA

percival09

i tend to call here knowing i'm behind

pryce6

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

Strange hand methinks. Would put him on kq also, or if he's a tard then AA. Obviously could have a set or (less likely imo) a bluff. Edit: If you know the outcome then he's never got KQ lol (else I presume you wouldn't be posting it ) He could also have a tardy QQ too lol. If you know the player then KQ, if not then AA
Posted by Die_hard

Yes great thought process and analysis.

pryce6

I think it's a fold if we don't think he's capable of doing this as a bluff.

If it's who I think it is, he can't have K7/Q7 so we're pretty much going to get shown 33/77 all the time.

Dudeskin8

I snap this off.

LOL_RAISE

foldy moldy

yb

thanks for all the responses, fwiw i'm a spewbox and did call, and he showed AQ.

i agree that this should be a fold though until we know that the villain is capable of turning made hands into bluffs given that he never has total air here.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

thanks for all the responses, fwiw i'm a spewbox and did call, and he showed AQ. i agree that this should be a fold though until we know that the villain is capable of turning made hands into bluffs given that he never has total air here.
Posted by yb

terrible terrible call.

rancid

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

thanks for all the responses, fwiw i'm a spewbox and did call, and he showed AQ. i agree that this should be a fold though until we know that the villain is capable of turning made hands into bluffs given that he never has total air here.
Posted by yb

Do you think he was bluffing, how do you know he wasn't raising for value ?

percival09

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In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair : Do you think he was bluffing, how do you know he wasn't raising for value ?
Posted by rancid

he'd have to of played the hand so weird if he raised for value on the river - doubt he'd play a set so passive although it is poss, he would have folded pocket 4's so that's not really poss - don't know any 2p combinations he could have that the river helps (even if there is hero still has him beat with top 2) .. only thing that seems feasable imo is a flopped set/ bluff

Die_hard

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair : Yes great thought process and analysis.
Posted by pryce6

I presume you were being sarky my little cash machine

Ho ho ho. Keep calling pryce ))))

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair : I presume you were being sarky my little cash machine Ho ho ho. Keep calling pryce ))))
Posted by Die_hard

Lol weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Isn't poker so much more fun when it gets personal.

Have a HU game!

Not for rollz obv....

3 buy ins????