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Donk or no Donk?

unknown_usernameunknown_username
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
It was a crazy move and you got lucky.

Having said that, everybody is free to play exactly how they want, so as long as you're having fun then who cares.


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    I played this hand in my usual passive manner! LOL! When the 4th heart came down I decided to rep the King of hearts knowing I still had the outside chance of the board doubling up or hitting the last 4 if I got called does this make me a Donk which I was called (which I replied TY of coarse) or just a little to aggressive even! Ps Im not a winning player so I wouldnt advice people to play like me, but it is just the way I enjoy playing the game.
      Small blind   25.00 25.00 1192.50
      Big blind   50.00 75.00 1960.00
      Your hole cards
    • 4
    • 4
    		     
    Donut64 Raise   150.00 225.00 1468.75
      Fold        
    XXX
    		 Call   150.00 375.00 1735.00
      Call   125.00 500.00 1067.50
      Call   100.00 600.00 1860.00
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 5
    • Q
    		     
      Check        
      Check        
    Donut64 Bet   600.00 1200.00 868.75
    XXX
    		 Call   600.00 1800.00 1135.00
      Fold        
      Fold        
    Turn
       
    • A
    		     
    Donut64 All-in   868.75 2668.75 0.00
    XXX
    		 Call   868.75 3537.50 266.25
    Donut64 Show
    • 4
    • 4
    		     
    XXX
    		 Show
    • 7
    • J
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    Donut64 Win Full House, 4s and 5s 3537.50   3537.50
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    It was a crazy move and you got lucky. Having said that, everybody is free to play exactly how they want, so as long as you're having fun then who cares.
    Posted by AcidMan27
     LOL. I am crazy I have had many therapsts to prove it!
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    But I thought may be even if he had hit the flush on the flop or turn I thought I may have got them off the hand if their top heart was average as I was the raiser I was obviously repping big cards. Which is the way I intended winning.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    I dont mind , obviously aimin to get on flop!

    not worst play in world donut obviously most the time you will lose that hand ;)
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2011

    Played it perfect imo.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited September 2011
    yea u have to much invested to folded turn
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    yea u have to much invested to folded turn
    Posted by The_Don90
     Thats it. Also if Im going to play aggressive I feel I have to keep trying to sell the story or my aggressive play would be half hearted and would leave me open to be bluffed off hands that I can win by betting or even in this case by being a Jammy Donut.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited September 2011
    Nice hand.
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  • bolly580bolly580
    edited September 2011
    Played it pretty spot on, only a flush can call your flop bet (unlucky for you he got it) but even then your not dead.

    And as said after he calls ur not really foldin to turn as too much invested
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  • kb245kb245
    edited September 2011
    yes definitely a donk.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    yes definitely a donk.
    Posted by kb245
     Thank You could you elaborate! I bet my hand when I thought I was in front and went all in when I was commited with the hope that I could have taken the pot down. Plus if I had not Jammed I could have left myself open to being bluffed off by 2 pair.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196
    edited September 2011
    love it, you have got 10 outs to hit on the river if you get called, and could potentially push off an oppo with a low flush. But me i would shove the flop betting 600 leaves you committed anyway so..
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    love it, you have got 10 outs to hit on the river if you get called, and could potentially push off an oppo with a low flush. But me i would shove the flop betting 600 leaves you committed anyway so..
    Posted by WHOAMI196
    Spot on sir
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    love it, you have got 10 outs to hit on the river if you get called, and could potentially push off an oppo with a low flush. But me i would shove the flop betting 600 leaves you committed anyway so..
    Posted by WHOAMI196
     Good Point! TY.
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  • penguin7penguin7
    edited September 2011
    So what would you have done if he shoved on the flop ?

    With the stack your 600 bet just about committed you.

    But it had to be that size to fold out a flush draw.

    Well played....    NO DONK
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  • sillymunchsillymunch
    edited September 2011
    its one of those hands where you just gotta get your money in, if he calls and has the flush then you say well played to him, you had 10 outs to improve your hand after the turn which gives you 20% chance of winning so 1 in 5 your going to win, if he has the flush but alot of times they probably dont have the flush lol so you will win with that hand so many times its worth the call NO DONK
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Donk or no Donk?:
    So what would you have done if he shoved on the flop ? With the stack your 600 bet just about committed you. But it had to be that size to fold out a flush draw. Well played.... NO DONK
    Posted by penguin7
    Once I made that 600 bet it was all going in if he had pushed I would probably have thought he was on a flush Draw and would have taken the risk I can be that paraniod I could have even put him on 2 pair and he had taken my bet as a continuation bet! I also realise that they could be protecting a small flush or just been betting with the nuts to make it look like a draw but as I say by then I was commited. Some people think I should be commited the way I play! :D
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner
    edited September 2011
    Having called a 600 bet on the flop, I don't think anyone with a flush is going to fold the turn for 800. If he called the flop with one heart, he's obviously got the card he wanted on the turn and will snap-call. If he had the two hearts on the flop, they're likely to be pretty reasonable, since he would have protected a small flush from a scare card on the turn by shoving the flop. Can you reasonably believe that this player is sophisticated enough to give you credit for the Kh and fold a Jh, 10h or 9h?

    For this reason, I think you're only folding out hands like two pair or a better set on the turn. You might have got someone off an usunusually played set of 5's or set of Queens, but it's likely that the only hands that fold are hands that you're already beating. Even the oversets might call you, given that you're giving them odds of 3/1 to pair the board and they've already committed alot of their stack to the hand.

    I would just shove the flop with the set of 4's. You can add 600 to your 1400 stack and hopefully avoid seeing a scare card on the turn. If you get called by the flush, you've still got 10 outs twice.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner
    edited September 2011

    Well, technically you've got 8 outs on the turn, then 10 outs on the river if you miss the turn. But that's being pedantic.

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