oh yea right i saw that coming

Dazler

2nd hand in a torny and the one who pushes first gets the st8 dont they

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ray1947	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1970.00
crazykaron	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1805.00
	Your hole cards	K K
degdad	Raise		60.00	90.00	1940.00
Dazler	Raise		180.00	270.00	2055.00
TYRESONE	Fold
Bhradain1	Fold
ray1947	Fold
crazykaron	Fold
degdad	Call		120.00	390.00	1820.00
Flop
		K 8 Q
degdad	Bet		292.50	682.50	1527.50
Dazler	All-in		2055.00	2737.50	0.00
degdad	All-in		1527.50	4265.00	0.00
Dazler	Unmatched bet		235.00	4030.00	235.00
degdad	Show	K A
Dazler	Show	K K
Turn
		10
River
		J
degdad	Win	Straight to the Ace	4030.00		4030.00

BLACK_MASS

In Response to oh yea right i saw that coming:

Despite the fact you were a towering 98.08 % fave here at least you can understand why your oppo did this.
They are mitigating circumstances imo. If he had made a mindless suicide all in with 5-6 os for example and it went Turn 7 Riv 9 then it would have been really annoying even tho 5-6 is a bigger " favourite " than A-K.
Not saying you haven't the right to be peed off tho man it does kinda suckle the dog's appendage.

Dazler

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
dave1959	Small blind		50.00	50.00	2435.00
frith63	Big blind		100.00	150.00	280.00
	Your hole cards	A 7
jams88	Fold
Dazler	Raise		200.00	350.00	1010.00
GoodHan490	Fold
frogyderm	Fold
dave1959	Fold
frith63	Call		100.00	450.00	180.00
Flop
		Q 6 4
frith63	All-in		180.00	630.00	0.00
Dazler	Call		180.00	810.00	830.00
frith63	Show	8 K
Dazler	Show	A 7
Turn
		8
River
		8
frith63	Win	Three 8s	810.00		810.00

Dazler

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

In Response to oh yea right i saw that coming : Despite the fact you were a towering 98.08 % fave here at least you can understand why your oppo did this. They are mitigating circumstances imo. If he had made a mindless suicide all in with 5-6 os for example and it went Turn 7 Riv 9 then it would have been really annoying even tho 5-6 is a bigger " favourite " than A-K. Not saying you haven't the right to be peed off tho man it does kinda suckle the dog's appendage.
Posted by BLACK_MASS

oh no i dont blame player at all just pointing out that this is what i expect to come out with runner runners consistantly with online poker and see it time and time and time again especialy when the short stack shoves first. Thats why its in Area 51

pod1

sorry dazzler, but a) he didnt need runner runner from what i can see, just had to hit 1 x8 or k and b) why are you min raising with 10 bb left? you are inviting the call from him or worse the larger stacks. i know this is area 51 and not the clinic, but dont leave yourself open to people knocking your facts and your play sir.

Dazler

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

sorry dazzler, but a) he didnt need runner runner from what i can see, just had to hit 1 x8 or k and b) why are you min raising with 10 bb left? you are inviting the call from him or worse the larger stacks. i know this is area 51 and not the clinic, but dont leave yourself open to people knocking your facts and your play sir.
Posted by pod1

not saying i played it right i know i didnt! not sayin that i care that i lost! i dont! i expected the call whether i was all in or not, but what i am saying is the hands play out funny with these runner runners especially when its the first person to shove with short stack! i put the second hand on there just to show how often i see these runner runners not to discuss how i played it but to show how hands come out.  i see it so so so so so so so many times that it almost seems pre determined, generaly its the runner runner or if i hold AK vrs A6 and short stack shoves i call and a st8 come outs! had one in game after had KJsuited flop comes JAJ and short stack shoves before me and has a rag A and guess what i call and my trips get canceled by another A on the turn. it even seems to put the cards out super fast from the dealer than normal aswel but maybe thats just me but i get that funny feeling when i see things with online poker that just dont add up quite a lot.

Dazler

infact ill post more of these when they happen and that should be quite often, but to keep it fair i shall also post when i get a runner runner which in my opinion dosnt happen very often like the ones above in my favour if they do i shall post them imediatly and tally up how many i get and how many my opponents get at the end of the month. And it dosnt happen to me often because i play the game as it should be and play by odds of what outs and strength of hand i have and those who dont play well and play the silly crazy odds that do get them. I may just end up eating my own hat and words! lets see shall we.

BLACK_MASS

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

infact ill post more of these when they happen and that should be quite often, but to keep it fair i shall also post when i get a runner runner which in my opinion dosnt happen very often like the ones above in my favour if they do i shall post them immediately and tally up how many i get and how many my opponents get at the end of the month. And it dosnt happen to me often because i play the game as it should be and play by odds of what outs and strength of hand i have and those who dont play well and play the silly crazy odds that do get them. I may just end up eating my own hat and words! lets see shall we.
Posted by Dazler

Yeah but even if you did it a million times and it didn't average accurately you'd be told to keep doing it 10 million times.
Part of the problem here is there are the same people mainly getting sucked out on because they are usually ahead. I hardly ever suck out and i mean it. But then i try never to be in that situation in the first place. It's not that difficult if you have half a clue.
Know what i mean man ?

Dazler

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming : Yeah but even if you did it a million times and it didn't average accurately you'd be told to keep doing it 10 million times. Part of the problem here is there are the same people mainly getting sucked out on because they are usually ahead. I hardly ever suck out and i mean it. But then i try never to be in that situation in the first place. It's not that difficult if you have half a clue. Know what i mean man ?
Posted by BLACK_MASS

absolutely 100% and thats why we shall never prove whether its pre determined from sitting on a laptop and having no programming inside knowlege!

BLACK_MASS

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming : absolutely 100% and thats why we shall never prove whether its pre determined from sitting on a laptop and having no programming inside knowlege!
Posted by Dazler

Yeah and logic won't allow me to deliberately try to suck out and gather stats that way. I blind away in tourneys rather than shove the endless stream of  2-4, 9-3 , J-2 hands on fkn principle. I don't care if it's wrong lol. I'd rather shove 3 bbs with 4-4 than 8 bbs with 6-2 os. In fact i'd rather just blind away because if you don't get the hands you cant win anyway. Even when you do you often get sucked out on. It's all bs ain't it ?
Happy days

pod1

why do i think you are on a level black mass? like i say the first one isnt runner runner dazler

Dazler

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming : Yeah and logic won't allow me to deliberately try to suck out and gather stats that way. I blind away in tourneys rather than shove the endless stream of  2-4, 9-3 , J-2 hands on fkn principle. I don't care if it's wrong lol. I'd rather shove 3 bbs with 4-4 than 8 bbs with 6-2 os. In fact i'd rather just blind away because if you don't get the hands you cant win anyway. Even when you do you often get sucked out on. It's all bs ain't it ? Happy days
Posted by BLACK_MASS

i kind of agree with you and you make a good point and i must say a lot of times i do the same why shove with rubbish apart from the reason to maximise your stack if you only have 6x 8x bb with 62 off as the amount of times i have waited just for the next hand even when i know im bb next and because ive waited pk As or pk Ks show up and all of a sudden i get 3 callers a tripple up and go on to cash or win. Im sure the general rule is to just put um in when your that short and just prey! but i bet you good players do just wait for something half decent that have at least half a chance of winning than just shoving with any 2 more than they like to addmit. If you notice on the 2nd hand i didnt shove but min raised got 2 players off the hand just by doing that and was hu with a half decent A against the really short stack so even though i lost my plan to go hu with short stack worked without risking my entire stack to 2 other callers against a rag. Prob not the best way to play in most cases but different games call for different tactics.

Dazler

hu torny hand ya just know its coming lol

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Dazler	Small blind		400.00	400.00	84892.50
saasen	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	33907.50
	Your hole cards	J A
Dazler	Raise		2800.00	4000.00	82092.50
saasen	All-in		33907.50	37907.50	0.00
Dazler	Call		31507.50	69415.00	50585.00
Dazler	Show	J A
saasen	Show	4 4
Flop
		7 K A
Turn
		A
River
		4
saasen	Win	Full House, 4s and Aces	69415.00		69415.00

Dazler

but got the win so not all bad

Dazler1200001£56 + 10 League Pointssaasen02£33.60 + 8 League Pointsscousestar03£22.40 + 6 League Pointsvaugha1971044 League PointsLudovician052 League Points

BLACK_MASS

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

but got the win so not all bad Dazler 120000 1 £56 + 10 League Points saasen 0 2 £33.60 + 8 League Points scousestar 0 3 £22.40 + 6 League Points vaugha1971 0 4 4 League Points Ludovician 0 5 2 League Points
Posted by Dazler

Pure quality.

Dazler

if you liked that you'll like this lol i said id post when it happens for me but this i might add is a rarety

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
peakaboo24	Small blind		200.00	200.00	4430.00
Dazler	Big blind		400.00	600.00	3920.00
	Your hole cards	10 Q
Tigger5	Fold
peakaboo24	Call		200.00	800.00	4230.00
Dazler	Check
Flop
		Q 6 9
peakaboo24	Check
Dazler	Bet		800.00	1600.00	3120.00
peakaboo24	Raise		1600.00	3200.00	2630.00
Dazler	All-in		3120.00	6320.00	0.00
peakaboo24	All-in		2630.00	8950.00	0.00
peakaboo24	Unmatched bet		310.00	8640.00	310.00
peakaboo24	Show	6 6
Dazler	Show	10 Q
Turn
		10
River
		10
Dazler	Win	Full House, 10s and Queens	8640.00		8640.00

Poker_Fail

In Response to Re: oh yea right i saw that coming:

why do i think you are on a level black mass? like i say the first one isnt runner runner dazler
Posted by pod1

Yes it is... He can only win with running aces or 10 followed by J

Dazler

why always the st8

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
GaryQQQ	Small blind		150.00	150.00	6514.00
Dazler	Big blind		300.00	450.00	10240.00
	Your hole cards	A K
wolvesf474	Fold
Torres909	Fold
harding10	Fold
piggy_smal	All-in		2710.00	3160.00	0.00
GaryQQQ	Fold
Dazler	Call		2410.00	5570.00	7830.00
Dazler	Show	A K
piggy_smal	Show	A 8
Flop
		9 6 2
Turn
		7
River
		10
piggy_smal	Win	Straight to the 10	5570.00		5570.00