Can I get any value on the river?

silentbob

I've not been at the table long, maybe 5-10 minutes but I'm aware that I've raised a couple of time pre due to having some decent hands but I've not got anything for them.

So no real reads on X but my notes tell me he bets small on flop & turn with strong hands & usually overbets river. Given that he's checked the river here can I get any value from betting? Surely I'm only gonna get called by an ace, even if it's a rag ace? The reson I checked back the thurn was for a bit of pot control.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ballboy	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£7.51
blondynka7	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.96
	Your hole cards	Q Q
pipstrel13	Fold
ADY77	Fold
X	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£14.99
silentbob	Raise		£0.32	£0.52	£7.92
ballboy	Fold
blondynka7	Fold
X	Call		£0.24	£0.76	£14.75
Flop
		A A 4
X	Check
silentbob	Bet		£0.57	£1.33	£7.35
X	Call		£0.57	£1.90	£14.18
Turn
		10
X	Check
silentbob	Check
River
		4
X	Check
silentbob	Bet or Check?

grantorino

I would usually check flop, you are either wa/wb and you cant usually get 3 streets of value anyway

As played bet river, pps and maybe even Kx call, he rarely has an A

Dudeskin8

I'd raise to 40p pre.

Flop I'd cbet less like 40p.

Turn ok.

River bet about a £1, can't imagine them checking trips to you lol.

yb

played well so far, i'd b/f like £1 on the end

AMYBR

I think you easily get floated off flop with worse hands, it also being doubtful he checks river after you checked back turn.  I think you can b/f here for when he holds pp's and K high hands.  He limp caaled pre so I'd try and get value from 5's through 8's.

silentbob

Thank peeps.

fwiw I checked back & kinda kicked myself straight away. I'm 99.9999% certain I wouldn't have been paid off anyhow as he flipped KQh. Had this hand been 15-20 minutes later then I'm betting like there's no tomorrow after what I'd seen by then.