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100nl, tp after 4b bluff in position.
Opponent posts in the clinic and it's clear that he knows what he's on about from his posts.
First time I've ever played him, and he hadn't been at the table very long.
From what I remember though, I'd opened loads of buttons, I think 4 of the last 5 buttons I'd opened, and he might have defended once or twice, but just given up on the flop, or something, no post flop history.
I just had a feeling that he'd got fed up of me opening in late position. He's obv very capable of playing back light, or I'd assume he is anyway. Is this a mistake to assume things, and anticipate things, rather than waiting to see for sure?
Post flop, I've improved from a bluff to top pair again.
Without any post flop reads, what line do you think is best?
Bet fold, bet call, or check?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| miekemur08 | Small blind | £0.50 | £0.50 | £70.71 | |
| xxx | Big blind | £1.00 | £1.50 | £89.35 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| RemyMartin | Fold | ||||
| varney | Fold | ||||
| Sakugawa22 | Fold | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £3.00 | £4.50 | £160.48 | |
| miekemur08 | Call | £2.50 | £7.00 | £68.21 | |
| xxx | Raise | £11.00 | £18.00 | £78.35 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £20.00 | £38.00 | £140.48 | |
| miekemur08 | Fold | ||||
| xxx | Call | £11.00 | £49.00 | £67.35 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| xxx | Check | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £17.00 | £66.00 | £123.48 | |
| xxx | All-in | £67.35 | £133.35 | £0.00 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Call | £50.35 | £183.70 | £73.13 | |
| xxx | Show | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Show |
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Comments
I like ur cbet but only if it was intentional, and if you knew where you were in the hand, i mean it allows your oppo bluff since he has fold eq against you, so its best to bet bigger if you gonna fold to a shove. So great play imo if you got him beat here, but tbh id bet flop bigger withought reads or even check behind because if i 4 bet him with 10j and got called id be looking for 2pairs(not inc paired boards),draws, etc.
IF he had QQ would he not have jammed on ya pre ??
Wouldnt surprise me if he had AK maybe ?? is A 10 a poss ??
I think you have played the hand well and i hope ya got ure reward
but here i lean more towards checking back but if i was gonna bet i would make it 24-25 aim to take it down on the flop and fold to a shove(kinda sucks and tbh on a paired board i dont think i would do this).
imo you dont want worse/air to call or bluff you because villains "Air" here would be AKcombos and not much else, villain may think 88< may be good here and shoving them but unlikely. also villain could play jj poss qq this way but im gona be result orientated here if you got him beat, its great ballsy play wp lol
if you want to take this line your sizings are good though.
im curious now, has he got AA
I'd prob 4bet a little bigger, although him being short makes it awkward
Postflop idk, I prob check back with your limited reads but if you are betting I like your sizing and snap the shove
I may be wrong on some of this, but anyway
). Obv the situation is important also.
I dont think you always have to have hands with better blockers but as you are usually making a kind of educated guess when you do this, you may as well do it when your hand is a little more sutiable. I understand why you 4b here, and I dont mind it, but you usually seem to have unusual hands for doing it with when you post these type of hands here (could be advertising
I would think your cards are more important when you 3bet bluff than 4bet bluff (not sure though) as you are much more likely to be flatted, and his range is usally less polarised.
Also a K blocks significantly more value hands than a J.
As the villain here posts in the clinic, i wonder if he/she might see this, remember it, and advise us why they flat called the four bet, and the reason for this. (this is an odd flat with junk imo, k3s, when they are only 110bbs deep.) I guess they had a plan, which went wrong when dohhhhhh connected with the board. But If i thought dohhhhhh was at it (he always is:), i would five bet jam pre!!
Another question, What would he/she do preflop in this situation if they had a monster premium hand?
I've never even considered a 4-bet bluff at the level I'm currently playing (NL4) since most 4-bets at this level are all in anyway. But I was just wondering what is considered more profitable.
If you do it with 74 then you are almost certain that the opponent doesn't have a seven in their hand. However your opponent could more likely have a jack.
We are rarely getting flatted (assuming 100bb deep against reggy villain)so our hand value or being dominated doesnt really matter, so I prefer have blockers to his likely shoving range
3bet bluffing is slightly different as its much more likely we get flatted, but hands like Axs, Kxs can have decent equity on some boards, as well as blockers to villains continuing range, whereas theres not many boards we like with 74o when villain flats a 3bet.