should you duck players?

pod1

ok, been playing at nl 30 for awhile now and doing alright, but there is 1 player i really struggle playing against. now when i select a table i ob pick one where this person isnt playing, but as they multi 3/4 tables and there not being a lot of nl30 open we meet often when they join. last 4 sessions i have been up before they arrive and down when i leave with the profit of that session going to said player. now its got to the stage they are hunting me down !!.i dont really think that but playing said player with all the notes i have on them i just cant get the better of them. do i just stand now when they come on table? pm them and tellthem i will burn there house down if they come on my table again? or just send them a cheque each week to save them the hassle of trying to win it off me.? advice needed before i drop down to nl20. thanks

mattless

There are plenty of players at 20nl and 30nl that you have to be cautious with imo (but not too cautious!). Sometimes my ego gets in the way though, they can't always have it!

Whilst I don't avoid them completely I think a really good thing to do if you are joining their table is to only join when you have position on them, if a spot comes up directly to their right I will wait.

Also avoid the temptation to completely tighten up against them, if you are in position 3 bet them light early on maybe, try and mix it up, esp if they may view you as a tight player capable of laying hands down you need to make think about your game too

DOHHHHHHH

Who is it???

pod1

mattless the problem is i dont go on the table before them, they join so postion is kinda out my hand. yes i have a big ego (very) but i have learnt to put it to one side at a poker table so i dont "go at" this person with the attitude "mine is bigger than yours!" i will pm you jj

huuuuume

i want to know too.

there are 6 on the table....its not too difficult to choose only good spots to get involved with them

DOHHHHHHH

Shut up and use proper font.

pod1

to be honest huuume i think its down to my betting patterns and they got a good read on me when i have and have not got the goods. normally i wouldnt change my game around for one person, and maybe i shouldnt , but i think i am going to mix it up a bit.

pod1

i aint shouting! no capitals here! just find 4pt easier to see than 3pt esp when i open the 3rd bottle!

DOHHHHHHH

tbf, if he can read your betting patterns he's a better player than me, and wont be at thirty nl for very long!

It's reallyyyy hard to get betting tells on you coz you do such wierd stuff. You could pot it with top pair, good kicker, then bet 1/4 of the pot with the nuts! 

Then next time do it the other way round!

Got your PM, will reply later, but I wouldn't be worrying too much about that player if I were u. Maybe he's just been making loads of good hands against ya!

pod1

hope your right jj and they are just running hot. are you suggesting i have a slightly left of centre approach to betting . slander pure slander!

unknown_username

Its above my level but as Dohhhhhhh says, if you think he has a read on your betting patterns (not likely by what Dohhhhhhh says) then you may have to mix it up and do the opposite against him for a bit.

The only other thing i would say is that if you get the chance, move seats to get position on him. If it is getting to you too much then move tables.

Could be that he just has a bit of run good on you at the moment.

GREGHOGG

I never avoid anyone at cash so long as there are one or two fish im happy.

If you find yourself getting involved in pots against a certain person you are uncomfortable with then at least try to get position on them. If not, then just concentrate on getting money off the fish.

P.S, who is it? Can i get a PM also tyty

grantorino

nothing wrong with avoiding a better player imo, esp if he is one seat to your left and is aggro. Finding fish prob more important than avoiding sharks though

debdobs_67

Hi pod this chappy plays nl20 as well and i aint avin bother him em , widen ure range and stick it to him when ya flop an unusually hidden monster OR just send him the cheque )

PS i may have actually only played him on my rare ish visits to nl30 , i will check sum of my  HH's

PPS just to make sure ive got the right person it begins with an S yeah??

pod1

to be fair grantorino he aint aggro on the whole. its just when i  bet he 3bets if i play back he jams. i think its time to use dohhhs thread earlier this week and pull out the "4bet bluff" this puppys going down!. 1 more bottle of wine and its on!!!! lol

mattless

In Response to Re: should you duck players?:

mattless the problem is i dont go on the table before them, they join so postion is kinda out my hand. yes i have a big ego (very) but i have learnt to put it to one side at a poker table so i dont "go at" this person with the attitude "mine is bigger than yours!" i will pm you jj
Posted by pod1

As other posters have said there are other people to take money off on a table. Me for example! I think it is very unlikely they are searching you out. Until you get a better read on them just avoid getting in awkward spots with them and mix your own game up as much as poss.

Good luck.

pod1

cheers mattless , im going in!

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: should you duck players?:

to be fair grantorino he aint aggro on the whole. its just when i  bet he 3bets if i play back he jams. i think its time to use dohhhs thread earlier this week and pull out the "4bet bluff" this puppys going down!. 1 more bottle of wine and its on!!!! lol
Posted by pod1

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
FULLFACE	Small blind		£1.00	£1.00	£456.12
gadgerno1	Big blind		£2.00	£3.00	£196.60
sam1986	Big blind		£2.00	£5.00	£198.00
	Your hole cards	5 9
PMG215	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£10.00	£15.00	£183.71
sam1986	Fold
LOL_RAISE	Raise		£26.00	£41.00	£179.00
FULLFACE	Fold
gadgerno1	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£40.00	£81.00	£143.71
LOL_RAISE	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Show	5 9
DOHHHHHHH	Win		£57.00		£200.71
DOHHHHHHH	Return		£24.00	£0.00	£224.71

pod1

you were told to have a k in your hand when you do it!!!!!!!!!

pod1

as you know (and the whole forum) lol is good enough to put down a 3 bet . think i can count the amount of people at this level on 1 hand who would!

debdobs_67

Dohhh please stop this advertising )

WP

DOHHHHHHH

I'll take your advice Debs, and not post up the hand where I put 200 quid in with pocket 3s on a 5 6 8 board and lost! 

"dont try this at home"

pod1

one day debs will will be pullin stunts like that, honest!

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: should you duck players?:

I'll take your advice Debs, and not post up the hand where I put 200 quid in with pocket 3s on a 5 6 8 board and lost!  "dont try this at home"
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Ave ya read the pm i sent ya ?

pod1

here debs, why dont we set up a hand where you 5 bet me light and get me to fold, then vice versa and make ourselves look good! ps dont tell the forum. dam, thought this was a pm!!!!!!

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: should you duck players?:

here debs, why dont we set up a hand where you 5 bet me light and get me to fold, then vice versa and make ourselves look good! ps dont tell the forum. dam, thought this was a pm!!!!!!
Posted by pod1

luv it )

1 prob tho , my 5 bet light prob dont need to be a set up )

DOHHHHHHH

Yes got ur PM debs, thanx. Will b contacting every1 over the weekend to confirm just giving it time to come thru n stuff.

YOUNG_GUN

man up podders u t@rt

pod1

hehe. i think they read post and have run. come join me on table yg, give me a chance to get that 20 back!

YOUNG_GUN

maybe later dude 11pm + lol like u have a chance woman!

pod1

if you need to get drunk first to play me fair enough, dutch courage is your friend :-)