Nothing at all yeah??

debdobs_67

Player had not been at table long and had hardly played a hand , im not beating anything here am i ??

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Vaper	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£20.08
tarnished	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£7.80
	Your hole cards	Q Q
AlphaShark	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£18.73
debdobs_67	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£38.12
andybeth	Fold
Vaper	Fold
tarnished	Fold
AlphaShark	All-in		£18.73	£20.03	£0.00
debdobs_67	Fold
AlphaShark	Muck
AlphaShark	Win		£1.90		£1.90
AlphaShark	Return		£18.13	£0.00	£20.03

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YOUNG_GUN

Erm yes you are, your beating AK and have a blocker, AQ(unlikely they have) JJ and lower i'd call readless if they have Aces/Kings make a note as im not folding QQ readless pre

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

Erm yes you are, your beating AK and have a blocker, AQ(unlikely they have) JJ and lower i'd call readless if they have Aces/Kings make a note as im not folding QQ readless pre
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Yeah this dont crop up too often does it , he limps utg and then wants to stack off at my 4xbb raise , just seemed very odd , when this has happened in the past ive usually faced AA or KK , but since i started this level this is the 1st time its happened thats why i want players opinions.Ty m8

DOHHHHHHH

Snappittoff

YOUNG_GUN

Yes i agree it could be aces but unless you know how wide thre playing you wont know, my philosphy would be to call. I probably wouldnt with JJ in this spot but some people dont like playing JJ & 10s, although more likely AK, AA, KK in this spot i think its worthwhile in the long run, hey if they have AA, KK just bink a set ftw

I really dont know again probably best to see what Dohhhh, or better cash players say

pod1

your space bar must be comming out in sympathy with my font size button jj. yeah i call and then hit the reload button (maybe)

scotty77

Readless this is a call but I can see why you folded, wanting to be risk averse.

rancid

call - cringe - note

NColley

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

Readless this is a call but I can see why you folded, wanting to be risk averse.
Posted by scotty77

Interested as to why its a call readless

I'd call too but I'm wondering if I'm throwing money away because more often then not the ureadless seem to come up with AA/KK here.

unknown_username

Do people just shove pocket Aces and Kings at this level from here? If he has he is missing loads of value.

I probably call this if i am rolled properly. Looks like someone who doesnt know what to do with A,K to me.

grantorino

I think this might be a fold, but obv depends what tightish looking unknowns average range for doing this is. You need him to have a range of JJ+,AK (47% equity) at least. I find this is more often KK+ than a smaller pair, but havent played much 20NL here

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

I think this might be a fold, but obv depends what tightish looking unknowns average range for doing this is. You need him to have a range of JJ+,AK (47% equity) at least. I find this is more often KK+ than a smaller pair, but havent played MUCH 20NL here
Posted by grantorino

Yep u hit the nail right on the head , that was my ONLY problem as bein new to this level , i only moved up a week ago , i aint really aware if LESS than JJ wants to limp and then stack off 90+bb's deep.

yb

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

Erm yes you are, your beating AK and have a blocker, AQ(unlikely they have) JJ and lower i'd call readless if they have Aces/Kings make a note as im not folding QQ readless pre
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

the fact that we have a blocker to AQ is a bad thing!

DOHHHHHHH

Gotta admit I mis-read the HH again, and didn't see that he limp/jammed....

Thought it was just a cold 3b jam.

I'd still call, but nowhere near as confident.

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah?? : the fact that we have a blocker to AQ is a bad thing!
Posted by yb

I didnt put that, i put blockers for AK eg for straights etc so gives us better %. AQ i put its unlikely because we have 2

Dudeskin8

Limp shove is nasty but I canny fold this unless I've seen him do it before which you clearly haven't.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

Limp shove is nasty but I canny fold this unless I've seen him do it before which you clearly haven't.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Yeah i think the general opinion is call by the sounds of it , if im behind well fair enough , may bink and win but would have a gd note on player then and he multi's so im bound to cross swords with him plenty.

Batkin88

From what everyone has said here he can only have 3 hands 2 of which your behind to. Is it worth not taking the risk and folding?? Hoping he does it again to someone else and then you can see what he has when this move is played

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

From what everyone has said here he can only have 3 hands 2 of which your behind to. Is it worth not taking the risk and folding?? Hoping he does it again to someone else and then you can see what he has when this move is played
Posted by Batkin88

What did you 4bet fold with yesterday ?

Lambert180

Hmm, at my levels it's an instant call and I'm sure you already know but I thought you were getting better players at this level, or at least more good players.

Either way he's played it horribly, whether it's AA/KK or junk, so if we assume he's one of the idiots at this level, then I think you have to call.

BLACK_MASS

In Response to Re: Nothing at all yeah??:

From what everyone has said here he can only have 3 hands 2 of which your behind to. Is it worth not taking the risk and folding?? Hoping he does it again to someone else and then you can see what he has when this move is played
Posted by Batkin88

That was exactly what i was thinking.