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Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs

edited September 2011 in Poker Chat
Having played both variants in large volume I make the following observations:

1) This has been discussed to death but the rake on turbo DYMs absolutely kills profit. You are £500 better off playing hypers than DYMs for every 1000 games played, purely on a rake basis(at £10 buyin). At lower stakes this cannot be dismissed even if DYMs are your stronger game.

2) Four tabling £10 dyms means you can play 16 an hour at peak times. Outside peak times this is a problem because it takes a while for each table to fill. For hyper sngs you can pretty much get a game at any time of the day, two tabling it is possible to play up to 24 games an hour. From a cash for points perspective I think its easier to get say 10k playing hypers than turbo dyms.

3) The most important thing profit. I have scoped some of the top turbo dym regs and analysed their stats. The variance is scary, you can easily have a swing of 2-300(even more in some cases) quid in a short space of time. Its early days with the hypers so its difficult to draw any conclusion yet. 

4) Quality of opponent. In dyms you cant necessarily chose who you play and you have to accept that your table may have 2 or 3 other regs meaning its difficult to cash as you all are trying basically the same strategy. With HU Hypers you can use scope before you sit down with another player, meaning that your decision to play a particular game is more optimal. Hypers also drag in the casual adrenalin junkie type poker players that dont understand hand values and how to play them.   

So whats the conclusion, from my perspective I suppose I am a bit biaised as I am a HU specialist. I love the Hypers and cant thank JJ enough for requesting that sky offer these games. The rake is palatable and it is possible I believe to get an astronomic cash for points figure if you apply yourself to these properly.

It would be interesting to hear others thoughts.

Comments

  • edited September 2011

    Imagine a dym where the game begins on the bubble...

    ....... and you are on the button every other hand......

    .....every other hand is a shoving/stealing spot......

    Rather than ever 6, 5, or 4 hands......

    You also have 10xbb or more for 6 minutes, and can still complete every game within 8 minutes, almost without fail.

    These games HAVE to be more profitable than turbo dyms.

    -----------

    btw I hope sky can get some 1/2/3 quid games in the lobby, get as many ppl playing them and moving up as possible. There's clearly a demand 4 um'.



  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs:
    These games HAVE to be more profitable than turbo dyms
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I suck at HU, so for me they are not. Although as you said, I would love some lower stakes ones so I can improve
     : )
  • edited September 2011
    I prefer the Turbo DYMS despite the rake. Made a tidy profit till i had a big downswing when to be fair i didnt think i was playin that bad. Coincindetally it was the same time i was playing HU Turbo and hyper and must hav affected my decisions. Cant get my head around hyper HU as u know gooner. i see u are making a tidy profit tho. 
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs:
    I prefer the Turbo DYMS despite the rake. Made a tidy profit till i had a big downswing when to be fair i didnt think i was playin that bad. Coincindetally it was the same time i was playing HU Turbo and hyper and must hav affected my decisions. Cant get my head around hyper HU as u know gooner. i see u are making a tidy profit tho. 
    Posted by ALFIE123
    Thats my point, take an optimal hu player and an optimal DYM player. Who has greater profits in the long run, I am now starting to think its the HU player all the way.

    Understanding what makes a good HU player isnt rocket science, theres loads of forums/sites dedicated to HU sngs.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs:
    Imagine a dym where the game begins on the bubble... ....... and you are on the button every other hand...... .....every other hand is a shoving/stealing spot...... Rather than ever 6, 5, or 4 hands...... You also have 10xbb or more for 6 minutes, and can still complete every game within 8 minutes, almost without fail. These games HAVE to be more profitable than turbo dyms. ----------- btw I hope sky can get some 1/2/3 quid games in the lobby, get as many ppl playing them and moving up as possible. There's clearly a demand 4 um'.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Really need some lower stakes in the lobby, currently playing turbo heads up and would love to play these at high volume at the lower levels. Cant afford to grind the £5 ones yet. 
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs:
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs : Really need some lower stakes in the lobby, currently playing turbo heads up and would love to play these at high volume at the lower levels. Cant afford to grind the £5 ones yet. 
    Posted by salad24
    Get on to sky m8. They dont seem very pro-active @ all, it's like they don't even want to improve the site.

    I pushed for the games, they responded quickly, they have been a huge success.....

    But still, they sit back rather than moving them forward.

    U gotta blag em. The more 'voices' the better.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs:
    In Response to Re: Turbocharged DYMs VS Hyper HU sngs : Get on to sky m8. They dont seem very pro-active @ all, it's like they don't even want to improve the site. I pushed for the games, they responded quickly, they have been a huge success..... But still, they sit back rather than moving them forward. U gotta blag em. The more 'voices' the better.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    What JJ is trying to say is when he needs anything done quickly, he asks me to give the priority club a ring !

    Doing the dirty work if you like !
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