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Pot Committed or can I lay down?
This was in the Orfordable team challenege last night. It was the first time I'd played 10 x handed tables and I was treating it as a TEAM game and wanted to "ladder" to get points for the team. IIRC there were about 20/25 people left and this would be for my tourney. I was also DESPERATE to FT at least. Thoughts
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr_Miyagi | Small blind | 1000.00 | 1000.00 | 35587.50 | |
| baker43 | Big blind | 2000.00 | 3000.00 | 22620.46 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| XX | Raise | 8000.00 | 11000.00 | 43107.31 | |
| cobras7 | Fold | ||||
| betterha1f | Fold | ||||
| Glenelg | Call | 8000.00 | 19000.00 | 8880.00 | |
| Quietman | Fold | ||||
| Mr_Miyagi | Fold | ||||
| baker43 | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| XX | Bet | 9500.00 | 28500.00 | 33607.31 | |
| Glenelg ?? | |||||
Comments
If you take longer than 0.0001 seconds to call on flop it's a slowroll.
shove pre he has to call anyway
If you are flatting pre wtf do you even consider folding any flop, never mind this one.
Your best chance of final tabling is by shoving pre. You wont get a better spot
Why flat pre /> he's never folding. Given pot size and hand strength, zero flop decision.
Glenelg on a wind up perhaps
I don't care what team your playing for or what the points are, at this stage if you get KK you should be hoping to get it in and begging to get called.
Posted by dylan12
THanks for the time taken to post all, esp Dylan! Not harsh enough Dylan! lol. I knew the replies I would prob get as I knew at the time I had made a BIGG mistake. I was watching another table and def not using it as an excuse but just "felt" AA or set as it was a reall quick bet which was kinda unusual for him. I folded and he "kindly" showed me QQ. Missed FT by 2 but learnt a lot in playing 10 x handed. Altho I blew this hand I feel my poker is DEF improving as a result of the clinic responses/criticism I get when I post.
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FWIW, in the spirit of your last few posts - for me - this should always be a jam pre. I dont really see a reason to bring in the blinds or give them equity. In fact the huge pfr followed by your jam should just about make it impossible for them to be involved.
No reason to get greedy here and run a gambit. Lock up whats in there vs one opponent and get healthy.
Opponent isnt folding any hand pre for your stack size, but you also run the risk of not getting value when he holds a weaker pocket pair or doesnt connect with a board. KK is a gift this late in the game, you need to treat it as such, your stack being perfect for a solid double through vs opening raiser.
Good skill out there sir
To answer your original question
You are pot commited and you can not or should not lay this down, team game or no team game
I find it bizzare that you even considered folding this.
if you flat to induce action on the flop then what is the problem
get it in
Depends how risk averse you are )
Obviously you are committed when you put in half your stack but you should have shoved pre as he was committed to call if you were all-in. Happy Days when you have KK.
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Hi Pad
You gotta shove pre in this spot with this stack and for future reference there are worse hands that you would also do the same.
Easy shove