This type of thing sucks

jugglegeek

Played this perfectly to induce the all in from suspected over pair. Perfectly until the damn river

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jugglegeek	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.98
brakey86	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.60
	Your hole cards	2 2
STR1BS	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£9.71
hobgobl965	Fold
turnbull08	Raise		£0.36	£0.54	£4.27
labrat64	Fold
jugglegeek	Call		£0.34	£0.88	£3.64
brakey86	Fold
STR1BS	Call		£0.24	£1.12	£9.47
Flop
		2 7 5
jugglegeek	Check
STR1BS	Check
turnbull08	Bet		£0.84	£1.96	£3.43
jugglegeek	Call		£0.84	£2.80	£2.80
STR1BS	Fold
Turn
		5
jugglegeek	Check
turnbull08	All-in		£3.43	£6.23	£0.00
jugglegeek	All-in		£2.80	£9.03	£0.00
turnbull08	Unmatched bet		£0.63	£8.40	£0.63
jugglegeek	Show	2 2
turnbull08	Show	Q Q
River
		Q
turnbull08	Win	Full House, Queens and 5s	£7.77		£8.40

NColley

meh ok you got done on the river but cold calling 3 bet oop with pocket 2s at 4nl.. not a big fan.

Pysterman

In Response to Re: This type of thing sucks:

meh ok you got done on the river but cold calling 3 bet oop with pocket 2s at 4nl.. not a big fan.
Posted by NColley

I think this is a valid set-mine against 2 opponents. With relatively deep stacks you are certainly getting good enough implied odds to call here, in my opinion.

Dudeskin8

Yh fold pre and also raise flop imo.

NColley

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In Response to Re: This type of thing sucks : I think this is a valid set-mine against 2 opponents. With relatively deep stacks you are certainly getting good enough implied odds to call here, in my opinion.
Posted by Pysterman

You don't always get to see a flop here/ nor do we always get a full double up here.

If opening raiser is semi decent he can 4bet wider here and be credited with better hands (unlikely that he gets QQ man to fold pre at 4nl but certainly those dudes playing 100nl +)

jugglegeek

Set mine here because both players are fully stacked. If I hit my set then it's likely all the money's going in the middle. The way people play at NL4 I know it's an over pair. There is no need to raise the flop since there is nothing to protect against. If he has AK then he insta folds to a re-raise. However if has over cards and makes a pair on the turn after c-betting the dry flop he thinks he's ahead.

If the board came 2sQdKd then I have to raise the flop since a) there is a myriad of draws that I need to charge the correct price to get there and b) my range is so much wider, I could for example play a big draw in the same way.

I know where i am throughout the hand and it's just a vomit river card. I was upset

ryderroo

question how do you put a guy on 2 5 off? STT 423078245 busted by brilliance or stupidity?
 

ryderroo

sorry put in STT MEANT MTT BH

The_Don90

we cant see you hand ryderoo.

regarding origional poster. I like the flat pre, although folding to a 4bet. Get it in on that flop tho

DOHHHHHHH

Flat on the flop is fine imo.

2 more streets to get 2.80 into a pot that is already 2.80. And there are Zero scare cards.

unknown_username

I let this go pre withthat action too but i dont really mind set mining to be honest.

After that, its a bad beat. ul jungle!

yb

In Response to Re: This type of thing sucks:

Set mine here because both players are fully stacked. If I hit my set then it's likely all the money's going in the middle. The way people play at NL4 I know it's an over pair. There is no need to raise the flop since there is nothing to protect against. If he has AK then he insta folds to a re-raise. However if has over cards and makes a pair on the turn after c-betting the dry flop he thinks he's ahead. If the board came 2sQdKd then I have to raise the flop since a) there is a myriad of draws that I need to charge the correct price to get there and b) my range is so much wider, I could for example play a big draw in the same way. I know where i am throughout the hand and it's just a vomit river card. I was upset
Posted by jugglegeek

i agree with the stuff in bold and i think flatting the flop is best, however this should definitely be a fold pre given that you're going to be oop and your cold call doesn't close the action.