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edited November 2011 in Area 51
what a joke this site can realkly be not just in the poker but vegas has well the roullette has been a joke for weeks now i only leave 5 numbers out and it manages to go there 4 times out of five bet it woulnt do that if i only covered them numbers

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  • edited September 2011
    TIP dont play online roulette! your askin for trouble
  • edited September 2011
    a joke.

    a man walks into a bar......... ouch
  • edited September 2011
    Go into 'MY ACCOUNT' , select peferences , select self exclude , select self exclude from sky vegas , problem solved x
  • edited September 2011
    +1 debs, never have and never will play.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to joke:
    what a joke this site can realkly be not just in the poker but vegas has well the roullette has been a joke for weeks now i only leave 5 numbers out and it manages to go there 4 times out of five bet it woulnt do that if i only covered them numbers
    Posted by coleman125
    Bet on every number, problem solved.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to joke:
    what a joke this site can realkly be not just in the poker but vegas has well the roullette has been a joke for weeks now i only leave 5 numbers out and it manages to go there 4 times out of five bet it woulnt do that if i only covered them numbers
    Posted by coleman125
    i will give you some sensible advice instead of the crrap people r giving you. dont try to beat online roullete it cannot be done.iv tried every system out there and nothing works in the long run.whatever you try after so many spins the computer picks a string of numbers to work against you.like picking the numbers you havent got etc.chasing losses onthese machines will only have you racking up loads of debt.best thing to do is pick a system u like and play for a short while and make a quick profit then run for the hills !!try another machine/ casino or quit.do not keep playing the  wheel WILL turn against u by giving a run of 13 blacks etc to wipe you out.( been there done that).remember these machines are designed to make u lose otherwise we would all be queuing up to play and sky woukd go bust.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    I. . . dont try to beat online roullete it cannot be done.iv tried every system out there and nothing works in the long run . . .
    Why try systems? They're all nonsense, and I'm afraid that no amount of complicated calculations that attempt to predict the outcome of the next spin, or the liklihood of it being within any particular range, will defer the house edge. Being able to predict completely unrelated future events is the great Gamblers Fallacy.

    The maths are the maths - you have 1/37 chance of hitting the next number, but if you do you only get paid out at 1/36. Divide 1 by 37 - the difference - and you come back to the HE of 2.7%. This goes for all combination bets across the layout (one reason why the guy who developed the game a couple of hundred years ago was a genius - the HE is guaranteed, and never varies, under ALL circumstances). Hit a number in a corner and get paid out 8-1? 8-1 = 1/9, 9 x 4 numbers covered is 36, not 37. Bet on six numbers? 5-1 payout = 1/6, 6 x 6 numbers comes back to the magic 36, not 37 (the number of slots on the wheel). Vary your betting pattern? How does that change the payout table or remove the zero slot on the wheel? It doesn't. People have been trying to find a way to beat roulette since it first appeared, and nothing short of tampering with the wheel, or changing the payouts, will do so. It''s unlikely that an RNG for an online roulette game will have been tampered with as there's just no reason to do it - roulette has been making the parties that offer the games shed-loads for years.

    What is of more note is the cost of playing roulette compared to online hold'em. The HE on single zero roulette is 2.7% and it never changes. Compare this to the minimum buy-in cost of 10% for poker tournies/SnGs, and you can see why poker is a nice little earner for the operators - over four times the edge in their favour of roulette. So if you're a player that wins as many as you lose, you still end up 10% of your total buy-ins or more out of pocket. So, if you're not playing at an advantage that is greater than the buy-in/rake at the level you play, eventually this edge will eat away at your bankroll. Any short term favourable variance will just put off the inevitable if all other aspects of your game (ie stakes) remain constant.

    One final thought . . . .  all bets, of whatever nature, will have an edge in them in favour of the party offering it. You may not know how it's been determined but it'll be there - a bit like a car; you may not know whether the engine is petrol, diesel or battery powered, but you can be sure as $#it there's one under the bonnet. Very occasionally bookies, casinos, operators etc slip up, and offer something with no edge or even an advantage to the punter, but it's rare and such gaps are usually plugged pretty quickly when someone smart works it out and takes them for a few bob. In the vast majority of cases though, the more you play and the more you bet, the more of your money you expose to the House Edge, and the more you stand to lose.

    Stop playing roulette, unless it's purely as "paid entertainment" (ie you expect to lose whatever it is you're putting across the felt) and spend your time improving your poker game to a point where you can consistently beat the rake. If you achieve it, and remain permanently in the black, you'll be a member of a very exclusive club.

    Good cards at the poker table.
  • edited September 2011
    roulette offline or offline is a sham imo. However this is due to the odds.

    50/50 on black or red. Now i could bet red every spin for the rest of my life and never win a spin once. Simply because i have a 50% chance of losing. All money you put in is -EV because you have 50 or less odds. Therefore routlette is a losing game imo.

    Poker on the other hand is win win as i can play a range of 50% EV+ and the house makes their money off rake so has no need to rig for action.

    Option B) learn to card count and get banned from every major casino in the world vbery quickly by making a fortune via blackjack .
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    roulette offline or offline is a sham imo. However this is due to the odds. 50/50 on black or red. Now i could bet red every spin for the rest of my life and never win a spin once. Simply because i have a 50% chance of losing. All money you put in is -EV because you have 50 or less odds.
    Although if you bed red/black you have a 19/37 chance of losing on a single spin, this is not the HE. If you made this bet a a million times you would not lose 19/37ths of the total you have bet, as when you won you'd be making back a proportion of what you'd lost on the losing spins. I'd be very surprised though if the losses were too far off of 2.7% of the total bet (ie the HE). But as you point out, it is a no-brainer game with no skill involved, and the EV is minus and constant under all circumstances - unlike poker, where it's virtually impossible to calculate an individual's EV from the dynamics of the game; we can only determine a win/loss rate in arrears based upon results achieved - and of course there will be variance within these results, and there's no guarantee that a player will continue to experience these results in the future (nobody's a machine and everybody will make a bad call at some time?).
    Option B) learn to card count and get banned from every major casino in the world vbery quickly by making a fortune via blackjack .
    Posted by The_Don90
    Counting cards at the Blackjack tables is easy and doesn't actually take that long to learn. The hard part is consistently making a profit at it, let alone a fortune - as you've said, you'll likely be barred long before you ever get there. At best, the advantage to be gained from card counting is possibly 2% in the UK, where the game is less advantageous than in the States (where the dealer gets a hole card as well as the one face up). One advantage of playing poker, as opposed to Blackjack, is that if you are successful with it you're never going to have your casino membership cancelled - as they'll be getting their cut and you won't be taking from their bottom line.
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    In Response to joke : i will give you some sensible advice instead of the crrap people r giving you. dont try to beat online roullete it cannot be done.iv tried every system out there and nothing works in the long run.whatever you try after so many spins the computer picks a string of numbers to work against you.like picking the numbers you havent got etc.chasing losses onthese machines will only have you racking up loads of debt.best thing to do is pick a system u like and play for a short while and make a quick profit then run for the hills !!try another machine/ casino or quit.do not keep playing the  wheel WILL turn against u by giving a run of 13 blacks etc to wipe you out.( been there done that).remember these machines are designed to make u lose otherwise we would all be queuing up to play and sky woukd go bust.
    Posted by kb245
    You actually had to try them all to realise they don't work? lolol.


  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    In Response to Re: joke : You actually had to try them all to realise they don't work? lolol.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    get a life prickk
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    In Response to Re: joke : get a life prickk
    Posted by kb245
    How much did you lose?
  • edited September 2011
    this thread made me lol anyway

    sky are rigging roulette? rly?wtf would they do this?
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    roulette offline or offline is a sham imo. However this is due to the odds. 50/50 on black or red. Now i could bet red every spin for the rest of my life and never win a spin once. Simply because i have a 50% chance of losing. All money you put in is -EV because you have 50 or less odds. Therefore routlette is a losing game imo. Poker on the other hand is win win as i can play a range of 50% EV+ and the house makes their money off rake so has no need to rig for action. Option B) learn to card count and get banned from every major casino in the world vbery quickly by making a fortune via blackjack .
    Posted by The_Don90

    lool at bold you are my hero donaldooooooo

    roulette is the devil the devil is roulette
  • edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    In Response to Re: joke : lool at bold you are my hero donaldooooooo roulette is the devil the devil is roulette
    Posted by delaney09
    If you add all of the numbers on a roulette wheel together they total 666. Says it all really . . . .
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: joke:
    In Response to joke : i will give you some sensible advice instead of the crrap people r giving you. dont try to beat online roullete it cannot be done.iv tried every system out there and nothing works in the long run.whatever you try after so many spins the computer picks a string of numbers to work against you.like picking the numbers you havent got etc.chasing losses onthese machines will only have you racking up loads of debt.best thing to do is pick a system u like and play for a short while and make a quick profit then run for the hills !!try another machine/ casino or quit.do not keep playing the  wheel WILL turn against u by giving a run of 13 blacks etc to wipe you out.( been there done that).remember these machines are designed to make u lose otherwise we would all be queuing up to play and sky woukd go bust.
    Posted by kb245
    thanks for the advice and your right winning little bits bk at a time then runningh like you said cheers
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