Can you fold QQ pre at NL4

jugglegeek

I seriously contemplated folding here. Generally people who have a full buy-in don't 3-bet all in without aces or kings but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Are players doing this with AK and Jack often enough to make it ok to call? If the player has <£3 then I insta-call but a full stack sugests a player who at least understands the value of their hand pre-flop (if not the concept of lost value)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
walesboy	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.81
X	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.44
LFCSPICER	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£1.56
	Your hole cards	Q Q
intrigue07	Fold
jugglegeek	Raise		£0.24	£0.34	£3.76
LFCSPICER	Fold
Rubbernix	Fold
walesboy	Fold
X	All-in		£4.44	£4.78	£0.00
jugglegeek	All-in		£3.76	£8.54	£0.00
X	Unmatched bet		£0.48	£8.06	£0.48
X	Show	K K
jugglegeek	Show	Q Q

IDONKCALLU

in this situation i couldnt when he does all in it kind of disguises hes hand because if u had kk u would just raise yor bet a little bit not jam all in so i would call here aswell just unlucky u ran into kings with hes jam all in looks like ak to me 

Dudeskin8

You made good open raise and he's just shoved all in, he could have ANYTHING here LOTS of pairs and random Ax's. If he had 3bet properly it would be a little more worrying but a 3bet shove nah snap call and make note I'm afraid.

YOUNG_GUN

I call here too UL and make a note

The_Don90

snap call make a note and river a set .

rancid

call note - move on - only a fool makes the same mistake twice )

walesboy

i would have called. his range was such that you could have easily been dominating him.
was very unlucky

Dudeskin8

You know tbh even if I made a note I would probably still call if he did it again lol

DOHHHHHHH

You probably can, but I wouldn't be doing so here.

rancid

In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:

You probably can, but I wouldn't be doing so here.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Noted for Saturday's challenge

3/bet shove on DOHHHHHH

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:

In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4 : Noted for Saturday's challenge 3/bet shove on DOHHHHHH
Posted by rancid

haha that will be interesting mate, as at like midnightish, stacks are going to be like 1,000 xbb's deep......

Easy fold

I'n the first hour I'll be snapping with 22+ 32s+ and 56o+ though.

rancid

In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:
In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4 : haha that will be interesting mate, as at like midnightish, stacks are going to be like 1,000 xbb's deep...... Easy fold I'n the first hour I'll be snapping with 22+ 32s+ and 56o+ though.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Well the big stacks are going to have to clash in order to win.

But I finks for NL4 Regs it may be a good idea to nit and take a few quid.

There will be loads of good spots to get ya stack in ahead )

I have not quite decided how to play this one

If I run good then I may bail out at  £30 :S

Lambert180

Yeah I think you gotta call here. You said generally people with a full buy-in don't 3bet shove... well I'd say, generally players who know what they're doing don't 3bet all in with KK/AA after one 6x raise. He's losing SO much value you cos there are so few hands you'll call with so now you know he's an idiot.

Lambert180

Hey this competition on 1st October at 2p/4p. I thought it was only on Omaha but am I wrong, does it include Hold 'em as well?

Dudeskin8

Yep all formats.

Lambert180

Argh!! I just realised, I don't think I'll be able to play Saturday night, but I'll have to see. You really think it'll get to 1000BBs deep Doh??