How to extract the maximum?

Glenelg

Genuinely NOT a brag. Felt I left chips on table tho, hence the post.  As you can see the betting was kinda weird and I feel looking back I should have just shoved turn but thought I'd get more by c/r.  I'll prob not come across this type of hand again but would like some advice in playing these type of hands.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jjjach	Small blind		75.00	75.00	16285.00
Glenelg	Big blind		150.00	225.00	10182.50
	Your hole cards	K K
XX	Raise		300.00	525.00	7390.00
chem	Fold
bugsytwo	Fold
jjjach	Fold
Glenelg	Call		150.00	675.00	10032.50
Flop
		K K J
Glenelg	Check
XX	Bet		150.00	825.00	7240.00
Glenelg	Raise		300.00	1125.00	9732.50
XX	Raise		300.00	1425.00	6940.00
Glenelg	Call		150.00	1575.00	9582.50
Turn
		7
Glenelg	Check
XX	Bet		150.00	1725.00	6790.00
Glenelg	Raise		300.00	2025.00	9282.50
XX	Raise		300.00	2325.00	6490.00
Glenelg	Call		150.00	2475.00	9132.50
River
		Q
Glenelg	Bet		150.00	2625.00	8982.50
XX	Raise		300.00	2925.00	6190.00
Glenelg	Raise		300.00	3225.00	8682.50
XX	Call		150.00	3375.00	6040.00
Glenelg	Show	K K
XX	Muck	A Q
Glenelg	Win	Four Kings	3375.00		12057.50

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rancid

Just weird tbh

no need to c/r

let em bet then raise/jam on them

defo jam river

Dudeskin8

This is one scary hand lol

3bet pre to like 700.

Bet flop small like 50% pot then call raise.

Turn wow how many minraises are there in this hand it's making me nautious lol

River don't bet 150 into 2475, bet around 2000 and shove over reraise.

Overall I would try and restrict the use of the minraise apart from preflop late on when it has effect (stacks are shallow) or maybe postflop if you think a player will shove on you thinking you're just testing him.

jugglegeek

It's tough to know what to do when you flop quads, I agree (not being sarcastic here btw). You should be 3-betting everytime with kings pre though. Don't worry about it betraying your hand. You raise for value, to narrow your opponent's range (if they have called a 3-bet then there are only certain hands you can put your opponent on) and for the hope that they 4-bet you with AK or QQ etc. Your aim should be to get your money all in pre-flop.

When you flop quads then the poker world seems devided on this one. c-bet and you may fold out a player who has totally missed the flop (very likely since there is no chance he has a king, most players will only call if they have two pair or a draw); check and you lose value and potentially arouse suspicion that you have at least a king, especially if you have been c-betting a lot.

On the few occations I have flopped quads I have checked the flop or called if in possition. Wait for them to show aggression and make it look like a float by making a big bet on a later street. This polarises your hand and they may even call you with a pretty weak hand.

A check raise on a paired flop looks very strong to most players. They have to give you credit for trips at least if you do this.

grantorino

How to extract the maximum?

Hint:


Dont minbet at every opportunity


3bet pre
c/r flop bigger
bet turn, as played c/r bigger
bet river bigger, 3bet river bigger

AMYBR

This pot becomes big quickly post are perhaps commit him pre when we 3 bet pre.

He has the perceived benefit of position, build it pre, then value bet streets, or allow him to fire.