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Modern Hold 'Em - the game is dying
Hold 'Em is meant to be a game of subtlety and skill, out-thinking, out-maneouvring and outplaying your opponents over all five streets. Instead, it's become nothing like this at all.
Modern poker means putting your opponents on a range then either shoving of folding. Or maybe seeing a flop, then shoving or folding. Ram and jam.
All subtlety and sophistication has gone out of the game. Why bother with a semi-bluff check-raise on the flop to get a free card on the river, when all your opponents do is shove or fold? This 'shove or fold' mentality is killing the game. Same as 'First-in All-in' when the blinds get high - everyone does it and the only way to respond is to put them on a range and either fold or shove yourself.
No-one will be playing no-limit Hold 'Em in five years time. It will go the same way as 5 card stud. The game is dying.
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But seriously LOL W TF
Don't be surprised to see hold'em go the way of the do-do: not that long ago, 5 card stud was the game, then 5 card draw, then 7 card draw, then 7 card stud, then Razz, then 8 or better......there's nothing sacred about hold 'em.
I agree with you to some extent if your talking about a fast structured tourny or turbo sng (although loads of people still dont follow this strategy-where the dead money come from), But in any cash game over 200bb deep there is loads of play aswell as deepstacked tournys.
I personally think holdem will be as or more popular in five years time, especailly when the americans can play on all sites again. (might even set off another boom if were lucky.)
Neway if it does die ......................... we will still have OMAHA!!! lol
I like to play PLO every now and again but i always return to Holdem as the swings make it so interesting. The poker boom will not last for ever but there are now so many players involved in poker and holdem specifically that it will never Die. A new generation of players already exist ready to take the game through the next half century (my 10 year old daughter alreaady plays me for fun, and she's going to be good "if you can't afford a pension have a gifted child")
Holdem is here to stay, it's the format chosen to establish the world champion (and in honesty the only format that works on TV which fuels the poker boom) and as long as the WSOP main event is holdem then new people will be fishing away at the tables
I think holdem will go the same way.
the boom of internet poker has seen a explosion of uber aggressive players who
have no qualms adout risking their entire stack on a fulsh draw/gutshot etc,the game has evolved and people will have to adjust to the faster aggressive pace of the game......
cheers dave
It may not disappear in my lifetime but I reckon that there's a very good chance that it will dwindle into insignificance during yours.
When you're older, you'll understand these things better. ;-)
Apparently even hopscotch isn't as popular with the kidz as it once was. :-)
I think BigBluster has a point.
Texas Hold 'Em will never die, but, relative to other games, yes, it's current dominance will be reduced.
Flop games have shot to prominence only very recently, in relative terms. It was not that long ago that the WSOP was based on Stud! (A truly beautiful game, by the way).
Things never stand still.
dont know about being king of velocity tho,ive only won it 8 times!!
It is now a completely different game than it used to be with ultra agression bing the key to winning it seems.
Unless you are Rich O who can wait and wait for the hand to push. I do perfer his style.