should i have folded?

9991

Hand History #420881875 (10:15 03/10/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tandoh	Small blind		50.00	50.00	2477.50
shooter73	Big blind		100.00	150.00	562.50
	Your hole cards	A A
clara1977	All-in		1227.50	1377.50	0.00
BigBlue26	All-in		3080.00	4457.50	0.00
9991	All-in		2055.00	6512.50	0.00
ANDYTAYLOR	Fold
tandoh	All-in		2477.50	8990.00	0.00
shooter73	Fold
BigBlue26	Unmatched bet		552.50	8437.50	552.50
tandoh	Show	Q Q
clara1977	Show	2 2
BigBlue26	Show	K K
9991	Show	A A
Flop
		9 8 3
Turn
		10
River
		K
BigBlue26	Win	Three Kings	8437.50

YOUNG_GUN

lol results orientated a bit!

snap call

9991

In Response to Re: should i have folded?:

lol results orientated a bit! snap call
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

What u mean mate?

YOUNG_GUN

If u held you wouldnt post this zzzzzzzz

9991

In Response to Re: should i have folded?:

If u held you wouldnt post this zzzzzzzz
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

You always get sum1 like this when u post on the forum, thats why i dont bother much. If you have nothing useful to say dont say anything. i wanted to know if any1 else would fold this as its a dym and its about survival not winning

rancid

Why would you fold the best starting hand ?

Only very specific situations where you would fold AA in a DYM but this is not one of them.

Also maybe put more info in your opening post regarding the situation, eg. MTT/STT/CASH/DYM 

9991

In Response to Re: should i have folded?:

Why would you fold the best starting hand ? Only very specific situations where you would fold AA in a DYM but this is not one of them. Also maybe put more info in your opening post regarding the situation, eg. MTT/STT/CASH/DYM 
Posted by rancid

Yeah good point, but theres some people on this forum who are just rude and never have anything useful to say!

PiAnOpLaYa

In Response to Re: should i have folded?:

In Response to Re: should i have folded? : You always get sum1 like this when u post on the forum, thats why i dont bother much. If you have nothing useful to say dont say anything. i wanted to know if any1 else would fold this as its a dym and its about survival not winning
Posted by 9991

With still 6 people in there seems little point in folding, its just a badbeat.

You need to add more info to the post state it was a DYM as if this was a standard tourn you should never consider folding AA pre. Which is why Young made the post that he did, he has a point that you would never have posted the hand had it held.

4 way with AA you arent ever going to be over  50% I dont think, you could ask to be up against better cards.

YOUNG_GUN

you didnt mention it was a dym cos that obviously changes the question, i may fold here now

lol if i have nothing to say dont post, i tell it how it is so if you take offence easy you dont post.

AcidMan27

Yeah if you had stated in your post that it's a DYM it would help, we're not mind readers.

There are two all ins before you, so even if you folded you don't know what the people behind you are going to do, so only 1 player may have been knocked out.

I think I would still call knowing if the aces hold I can sit back and fold every hand to make the money.

DOHHHHHHH

The first guy is short. If you only beat the re-shover in the hand you almost break even, or at least maintain a playable stack. (a -400 chip loss on the hand leaving you 1.6k) That's good security.

No brainer imo.

Had the guy who shoved behind, acted before you, then that might be different, especially as the big blind is already really short. It's probably a clear fold in that situation.

But as the action played out, this is never ever a fold. (imo)

PiAnOpLaYa

just ran it through a poker calculator

Pre 54.54%
KK= 17.78
QQ= 15.06%
22= 12.06%

Flop 72.07%
KK= 9.15%
QQ=10.61%
22=8.17%

Turn 75%
KK= 5%
QQ=15%
22=5%


So as you can see you are a Favourite all the way, I was a little surprised by this pre i thought you'd be <50%

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: should i have folded?:

The first guy is short. If you only beat the re-shover in the hand you almost break even, or at least maintain a playable stack. (a -400 chip loss on the hand leaving you 1.6k) That's good security. No brainer imo. Had the guy who shoved behind, acted before you, then that might be different, especially as the big blind is already really short. It's probably a clear fold in that situation. But as the action played out, this is never ever a fold. (imo)
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

This is spot on IMO

debdobs_67

Hi 9991 , to start with IF ya woulda put more detail in the OP im sure ya woulda got a diff response , as for the hand ofc its a call in THIS situation ya was just unlucky.

Now as for YOUNG_GUN i can promise ya now he is very much 1 of the gd guys on this forum and never insults anyone in this way , in fact he regularly wades in when OTHERS make nasty remarks to posters.

Please dont stop posting in here as its a great form of help to ureself , just remember to be specific when posting a hand so others dont get the wrong end of the stick

Gl at the tables

debbydobby xx

iain888

Id actually be happy here to fold knowing at least one player is out. You have to expect both players before you to have pairs and as the stats suggest you are then only a margnal fav pre flop. DYM's are not about how many chips you win but more on surviving. I love them as the tactics are brilliant. Sometimes when I do have loads of chips I min raise pots with nothing to get action from multiple players. I then step back and watch em knock eachother out LOL