15 seconds just isn't enough

IrishWOLF

This has been bugging me for ages. The 15 seconds to decide in a hand, in both cash and tourneys just isn't enough,, especially when multi-tabling.

I started back here about a month or 2 ago after the whole full - T thing and only having 15 secs and no time-bank is making me leave - to go and play on Poker - S ..

Gota be done ,, will be back when all is updated

CrazyBen23

+1, they prob cant do it or never get round to doing it but in later stages of tournments more time sud be added or if its a big pot in cash

loonytoons

Maybe the Irish are just slow? TBH 15 seconds is plenty of time (just ask my wife lol) or are you including the smoke afterwards?

IRISHROVER

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Maybe the Irish are just slow? TBH 15 seconds is plenty of time (just ask my wife lol) or are you including the smoke afterwards?
Posted by loonytoons

Raver pans me if i take more than 15 secs ,
its a tough life .

unknown_username

Its Not the WSOP Lol - most peeps online have usually made up there mind what they are going to do with there hand before it even rotates around to them.

Or is that just me?

I mean lets not forget - if you are last to react it could be at least 75 secs before its your turn to bet. 

LOL_RAISE

its pretty ridic that in a £500 comp that they will have for the new series you will only have 15seconds to act

DannyMcs

+1 for some kind of timebank. The existing timebar is plenty 98% of the time, but there are definitly times when a bit of extra thought is required for an optimal decision. Invariably these are in large cash pots/crucial moments in MTTs which makes it all the more frustrating you can't think the hand through as much as you'd like.

jakally

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its pretty ridic that in a £500 comp that they will have for the new series you will only have 15seconds to act
Posted by LOL_RAISE

In a way, I agree, but conversely, the lack of timebank is a definite edge for people who play the site regularly, versus players who will just turn up for a specific MTT.

bandini

A sad day when two Irishmen beat me to the punchline.

But I agree. Has to be regulated to stop it being taken advantage of but sometimes you just need to replay a hand from back to front before you call with K high.

I just get too excited at times. As IrishRover and Loonytoon's wifes will testify to :-)

unknown_username

hi all,

The default turn to act is 20 seconds, this applies to all cash tables and the vast majority of tournaments/sit and go's.

The exceptions are listed below

Speed/Turbo tournaments are 12 or 15 secs
Regular DYM's are all set at 15 secs due to their nature 
Sky Roller and Sunday Roller are both 25 secs

All UKOPS events will be 30 secs turn time to act (1 exception being the turbo event which will be 15 or 20 secs)

A timebank won't be introduced in time for UKOPS unfortunately but it is something we are keen to get done

Best Wishes

Adam

IrishWOLF

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Maybe the Irish are just slow? TBH 15 seconds is plenty of time (just ask my wife lol) or are you including the smoke afterwards?
Posted by loonytoons

No need for your smart A - SS comments .. Youre not at a level to try and criticize.

IrishWOLF

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Its Not the WSOP Lol - most peeps online have usually made up there mind what they are going to do with there hand before it even rotates around to them. Or is that just me? I mean lets not forget - if you are last to react it could be at least 75 secs before its your turn to bet. 
Posted by POKERTREV

ofcourse the most hands played are usually around 15sec or less . But there are hands that you gota sit back and think . And when playing 3 or more tables time usually runs outs.. 

I.E , A-K vs uber tight player.. I know what you mean by what you say . 

This is an issue that I just want to bring to light ..

The_Don90

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hi all, The default turn to act is 20 seconds, this applies to all cash tables and the vast majority of tournaments/sit and go's. The exceptions are listed below Speed/Turbo tournaments are 12 or 15 secs Regular DYM's are all set at 15 secs due to their nature  Sky Roller and Sunday Roller are both 25 secs All UKOPS events will be 30 secs turn time to act (1 exception being the turbo event which will be 15 or 20 secs) A timebank won't be introduced in time for UKOPS unfortunately but it is something we are keen to get done Best Wishes Adam
Posted by Sky_Adam

well thats some more good news. N1 Adam and Sky.

have to say the need of a timebank is there. i had a cash pot the other day. Flop comes good, and guy donk shoves 2x pot into me 2 players to act behind. Now usually in this situation i know well, but how to get paid from someone behind. At the time i paniced and shoved myself, but i know i could have done soo much better.

loonytoons

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In Response to Re: 15 seconds just isn't enough : No need for your smart A - SS comments .. Youre not at a level to try and criticize.
Posted by IrishWOLF

Haha! Touchy aren't we mr imonanotherlevel pokerpro? lool.

IrishWOLF

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Posted by loonytoons

YAWN :: 

unknown_username

Yeah, as Don says, sometimes there is a lot of decisions to be made in a multiway pot with players left to act behind. Be nice to have an extra bit of time on the odd occasion. Got to be careful people dont take advantage.

chrispip

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In Response to Re: 15 seconds just isn't enough : No need for your smart A - SS comments .. Youre not at a level to try and criticize.
Posted by IrishWOLF

Spanner

loonytoons

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Yeah, as Don says, sometimes there is a lot of decisions to be made in a multiway pot with players left to act behind. Be nice to have an extra bit of time on the odd occasion. Got to be careful people dont take advantage.
Posted by DrSharp

Only 3 with me - fold, call, raise which makes 3 seconds. I normally let the timer run out which allows me time to fetch another beer from the fridge, so on reflection another few seconds would be handy ))

tony14757

hi all i only play the small dym and one table at a time i would like to no how a time back would work say in mtt as thats the most played games
so then 20secs per hand 6 hands a leveal sky like i think so if you fold your hand in 4 secs you then get to bank 16 secs and so on and it starts again at the begining of every leveal as i no there is a lot of players that take there time just to try to put otheres off there game

IrishWOLF

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Posted by chrispip

wrench

drumahai05

i find 15 seconds far to fast god how do you expect to ladder into ihe money when it goes fast. and it takes me at least 30 seconds to fill me whisky glass. and loony i cant even get a raise in i min these days, so yes im all for a longer think time;)

chrispip

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Posted by IrishWOLF

Both apply.

spornybol

15 SECONDS TO ACT (EVEN MULTI ) SURLEY IT DEPENDS ON IF YOUR FIRST TO ACT ?? IF YOUR NOT FIRST TO ACT THEN YOU HAVE MORE TIME, AS PLAYERS BEFORE YOU HAVE THE SAME TIME ( UNLESS THEY ALL INSTA FOLD),

delaney09

15 seconds realistically is not enough obviously everyone who plays sky will have this to their advantage in the events where there is a standard time bank but in the bigger comps even the £100+ comps you are at one point going to be put to somewhat of a tough decision and knowing that time is running out can easily make a rash decision that was clearly wrong but needed to act before timing out..... ok flame away

logdon

As I remember players were complaining about the time it took for away player to be folded and wanted the time reduced.  Plus if every other player takes the full 15 sec to act I have to set my alarm clock.  Call yourself a good player when you need more than 15 seconds to decide!  Piff  I can make the wrong decisions quicker than that.  Hugs x :-)

_keenberg

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This has been bugging me for ages. The 15 seconds to decide in a hand, in both cash and tourneys just isn't enough,, especially when multi-tabling. I started back here about a month or 2 ago after the whole full - T thing and only having 15 secs and no time-bank is making me leave - to go and play on Poker - S .. Gota be done ,, will be back when all is updated
Posted by IrishWOLF

THIS NEEDS FIXING.... real negative factor about SkyPoker... Time banks needed

IrishWOLF

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Posted by chrispip

Try and look at the bigger picture here . I've nothing against anyone here or Sky poker.. Just trying to point out an issue with the software..

They need to get the spanner / wrench out and do some tweeks . It's the difference in people staying or leaving. It's not that hard to add a [My time] Button..

GL at the table ..

BigRonnieC

I don't find a hard decision gets any easier with time. I can see it being useful in cash games more so than MTTs where previous play and levelled thinking comes into the fray more. As the effective stack to pot ratio decreases, more and more of the important decisions in an MTT are preflop and, by and large, play becomes more ABC - it's more about selecting a time to make a predetermined move (ie when to shove, who to steal from etc) than it is about reactionary decisions. Calling an all-in, deciding whether or not to 3-bet someone you suspect is stealing your blind etc - these tend to be situational reads based on a far more recent series of actions and, in truth, on guts and intuition.

In cash games (at higher levels) the metagame has a bigger role as stacks are deeper, there is often history among those at the table and, as a chip's relative value remains the same in cash, a person's previous decisions in similar situations are relevant.

I don't think a blanket time increase is needed, however, a time bank (3 timeouts?) could be appropriate if marshalled properly. It would have to pause the blinds clock too, for obvious reasons.

The_Don90

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I don't find a hard decision gets any easier with time. I can see it being useful in cash games more so than MTTs where previous play and levelled thinking comes into the fray more. As the effective stack to pot ratio decreases, more and more of the important decisions in an MTT are preflop and, by and large, play becomes more ABC - it's more about selecting a time to make a predetermined move (ie when to shove, who to steal from etc) than it is about reactionary decisions. Calling an all-in, deciding whether or not to 3-bet someone you suspect is stealing your blind etc - these tend to be situational reads based on a far more recent series of actions and, in truth, on guts and intuition. In cash games (at higher levels) the metagame has a bigger role as stacks are deeper, there is often history among those at the table and, as a chip's relative value remains the same in cash, a person's previous decisions in similar situations are relevant. I don't think a blanket time increase is needed, however, a time bank (3 timeouts?) could be appropriate if marshalled properly. It would have to pause the blinds clock too, for obvious reasons.
Posted by BigRonnieC

Big ronnie, a small question regarding this statement. How many times have you looked back at a hand or a friends hand and ou can say, "Id have done that" or "i should have done that"

When people are faced with a big desision, say you have Kings and 2 all ins infront f you on the bubble of your biggest MTT youve ever played in. Normally if it doesnt matter we snap call because the odds are correct. But now suddenly that min cash seems tastey. Emotion starts to flood are brain. We dont think clearly. A situation like this would result in us making a poor desision in 15 seconds. With a time bank we can take a breather allow us to regain control of our thoughts from the emotion and make the correct desision. Ok this is a pretty extreme example but i just wanted to get my point across.

pod1

plus you can get another beer!!

igimc

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In Response to Re: 15 seconds just isn't enough : Big ronnie, a small question regarding this statement. How many times have you looked back at a hand or a friends hand and ou can say, "Id have done that" or "i should have done that" When people are faced with a big desision, say you have Kings and 2 all ins infront f you on the bubble of your biggest MTT youve ever played in. Normally if it doesnt matter we snap call because the odds are correct. But now suddenly that min cash seems tastey. Emotion starts to flood are brain. We dont think clearly. A situation like this would result in us making a poor desision in 15 seconds. With a time bank we can take a breather allow us to regain control of our thoughts from the emotion and make the correct desision. Ok this is a pretty extreme example but i just wanted to get my point across.
Posted by The_Don90

So,how much time do yous want,most tournys already last

3 hours plus(if you last that long)When is enough enough,

time is after all infinite.Someone will always want more.