Any way out of this one alive?

bandini

I'm almost certain not. Just a cooler, huh? Re-assure me, I need the love, lol.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
frapstar	Small blind		50.00	50.00	6172.50
haddons	Big blind		100.00	150.00	10250.00
	Your hole cards	J Q
rivvva	Fold
bandini	Raise		300.00	450.00	4810.00
madman11	Fold
frapstar	Fold
haddons	Call		200.00	650.00	10050.00
Flop
		J K Q
haddons	Bet		100.00	750.00	9950.00
bandini	Raise		737.50	1487.50	4072.50
haddons	All-in		9950.00	11437.50	0.00
bandini	All-in		4072.50	15510.00	0.00
haddons	Unmatched bet		5240.00	10270.00	5240.00
haddons	Show	K K
bandini	Show	J Q
Turn
		6
River
		5
haddons	Win	Three Kings	10270.00		15510.00

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NColley

uve been donk min lead/shoved on with bottom 2, I think you can fold here.

bandini

In Response to Re: Any way out of this one alive?:

uve been donk min lead/shoved on with bottom 2, I think you can fold here.
Posted by NColley

Really? Against his range he's flat calling with? A,10 was the only hand I feared due to my blockers and the unusual line for KKs? History was he'd shown down worse and draws and Ahit were more likely. I really thought about this one and still think I've done everything right against vil in £10BH?

As always, I stand to be corrected.

NColley

I happen to know that this villian is generally bad but we can never rule out big hands just because they have flatted in the BB.

Hands that bad players would generally do this kind of play with: AA KK QQ JJ AK KQ QJ 109 J10 + potentially any 2 clubs

Still got 40 bigs and plently of chance to get it in in a better spot. But I am possibly too tight at times.

DOHHHHHHH

Don't think I'm ever folding here in a standard sky tourny.

bandini

In Response to Re: Any way out of this one alive?:

I happen to know that this villian is generally bad but we can never rule out big hands just because they have flatted in the BB. Hands that bad players would generally do this kind of play with: AA KK QQ JJ AK KQ QJ 109 J10 + potentially any 2 clubs Still got 40 bigs and plently of chance to get it in in a better spot. But I am possibly too tight at times.
Posted by NColley

Readless I'm discounting AA & KK (stupidly).  QQ and JJ have to be unlikely due to blockers and flat. Admitedly I discounted KQ but still have a blocker. QJ, meh. 10,9 maybe. J,10 less likely.

Hmm, dunno. Appreciate the input NColley but even with hindsight I don't think I'm folding here ever in a £10BH late on a Thursday night.

Reply appreciated though.

Dudeskin8

Mate you gotta NOT show results.

Even with results I call here.

YOUNG_GUN

I dont think im ever folding here readless, cooler imo

This is what always seems to trap me in tourneys if someone limps a big hand grrrrrrrrrrrr raise it u gaihgekdhikahda

jams88

I don't think im getting off this in a BH

BigRonnieC

Unlucky that he picked up a monster in the Blinds, no pre flop clues to work back to, just a very unusual donk bet then 3 bet all-in. He could have had Kx and tried to punish what he saw as a limp wristed C-bet from the pre flop raiser for all you know.

Even if flop came J Q x he's probably doing the same, he has call equity (if that makes sense) as it's harder to believe someone in BB has a big hand. If it came JQ x he could stillmake the same play unaware you had such a strong made hand (2 pair).

He probably put you on a draw with A x or 10x for straight or even two clubs (less likely given they way hand played out and flop came) in which case his 3 bet all-in makes it hard for you to call with your stack on the line.

You just had the wrong hand at the wrong time.

grantorino

lol at folding, esp once you raise the donk bet. No way out readless imo, nh

NColley

In Response to Re: Any way out of this one alive?:

lol at folding, esp once you raise the donk bet. No way out readless imo, nh
Posted by grantorino

pls tell me what you would put villian on because this is basically a check raise on a super wet board which is a strong play. op's raise is pot sized basically saying he has a big hand and we still get shoved on.. you can't call and expect to be ahead alot of the time in that spot.

grantorino

In Response to Re: Any way out of this one alive?:

In Response to Re: Any way out of this one alive? : pls tell me what you would put villian on because this is basically a check raise on a super wet board which is a strong play. op's raise is pot sized basically saying he has a big hand and we still get shoved on.. you can't call and expect to be ahead alot of the time in that spot.
Posted by NColley

why raise flop if you are folding to a 3bet?

NColley

i wouldn't of raised flop. I'd of flatted the donk minbet.

cleaverjim

In those bounty bingo hunter torns id call all day.