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Advice on this hand, please.
That's pretty nasty.
Personally, i would stick the lot in pre-flop.
I'm guessing judging by the calls (and the time of the hand) that you were playing a very loose table and had probably already identified this.
Therefore, the raise, 3-bet and all-in 4-bet pre-flop don't mean as much as they might on a more solid table.
There is plenty in the pot and it is worth clearing the field pre-flop and going HU against the all-in.
If someone has got AA then that's just bad luck on your part.
To give you some idea of percentages, if you end up HU against QQ (which the all-in player might have for example) you are a little better than 80% favourite to win the hand. If you play it 4-way against QQ, AdTd and 75o you are about 42% favourite to take it down.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is a hackneyed phrase but it has some merit in situations like this. Judging by your stack you had been doing nicely already and there's no need to get greedy here. I would imagine that plenty more opportunities would present themselves.
On your second question, it would be wrong to speculate on their play and it is generally considered bad practice to leave the player's name in the hand history when posting.
Some people choose to replace the players names with terms like "Hero" (yourself, obviously!) and "Villain". Others will use nomenclature to indicate table position e.g UTG (under the gun), BTN (button), SB, BB, CO (cut-off) and HJ (hi-jack) etc.
With regard to your play on flop, turn and river, you could (and should) bet the flop but I'm pretty certain that you're going to double-up the player with the FH anyway. If you bet enough that you are pot committed (and there is no sensible bet where you wouldn't be either all-in or pot committed) then you will be put all-in on the flop. Even if you bet less then the FH is probably just going to call you and you are no wiser and out of position and it would be very difficult to not lose any further cash.
Personally, i would stick the lot in pre-flop.
I'm guessing judging by the calls (and the time of the hand) that you were playing a very loose table and had probably already identified this.
Therefore, the raise, 3-bet and all-in 4-bet pre-flop don't mean as much as they might on a more solid table.
There is plenty in the pot and it is worth clearing the field pre-flop and going HU against the all-in.
If someone has got AA then that's just bad luck on your part.
To give you some idea of percentages, if you end up HU against QQ (which the all-in player might have for example) you are a little better than 80% favourite to win the hand. If you play it 4-way against QQ, AdTd and 75o you are about 42% favourite to take it down.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush is a hackneyed phrase but it has some merit in situations like this. Judging by your stack you had been doing nicely already and there's no need to get greedy here. I would imagine that plenty more opportunities would present themselves.
On your second question, it would be wrong to speculate on their play and it is generally considered bad practice to leave the player's name in the hand history when posting.
Some people choose to replace the players names with terms like "Hero" (yourself, obviously!) and "Villain". Others will use nomenclature to indicate table position e.g UTG (under the gun), BTN (button), SB, BB, CO (cut-off) and HJ (hi-jack) etc.
With regard to your play on flop, turn and river, you could (and should) bet the flop but I'm pretty certain that you're going to double-up the player with the FH anyway. If you bet enough that you are pot committed (and there is no sensible bet where you wouldn't be either all-in or pot committed) then you will be put all-in on the flop. Even if you bet less then the FH is probably just going to call you and you are no wiser and out of position and it would be very difficult to not lose any further cash.
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Should I have done anything differently post-flop? Was my call on the river just plain stupid?
Hand History #200441572 (02:09 24/10/2009)
You cannot be greedy once a player has gone all in pre-flop.
You must isolate the player with a big re-raise to get rid of the chancers.
I was also unaware of the etiquette of not posting the names of the other players. Apologies for this. I've changed the names on my original post to protect the innocent.
Thanks again.
Your always gonna lose this hand against seat 2 because he's a nutter. But i bet you got up to your £34 with a lot of help from him. I also bet he lost most of it soon after. Lets play the pre flop as seen by seat 2 and find me any player on earth who would call this and not fold. UTG folds, seat 2 has 5-7 off suit and puts 4 times big blind 40p hoping to steal the blinds. He gets a re raise of £1.30, then an all in of £2.14 and then a call from you. Thats 4 players and you have 5-7 off suit lol, how can you make that call lol. Once the flop came it was always gonna be game over.