Was it bad play???

CHEWIN

15p/30p cash Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
goodfell28	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£31.22
DN34689	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£33.43
	Your hole cards	Kd 8d
richtea	Fold
CHEWIN	Raise		£0.60	£1.05	£35.96
HAVA72	Fold
goodfell28	Raise		£1.35	£2.40	£29.87
DN34689	Fold
CHEWIN	Call		£0.90	£3.30	£35.06
Flop
		Jd  7s  Jh
goodfell28	Bet		£1.65	£4.95	£28.22
CHEWIN	Call		£1.65	£6.60	£33.41
Turn
		3d
goodfell28	Bet		£3.75	£10.35	£24.47
CHEWIN	Call		£3.75	£14.10	£29.66
River
		8c
goodfell28	Check
CHEWIN	Check
goodfell28	Show	Ah 10s
CHEWIN	Show	Kd 8d
CHEWIN	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 8s	£13.39		£43.05

My opponent was unhappy the way this hand was played out.....was it really BAD play from me like he said it was??
I min raise in middle position with K9 of diamonds, he re-raises on the small blind, i think he is trying to bully me out of my original raise but with everyone else folded and me having position over him i call. When the flop comes down Jd 7s Jh he bets out, i haven't hit but i don't think he has either and he is just C betting the flop so i flat call. Turn is 3d which now gives me 15 outs to make my hand! Any 1 of 9 diamonds, 3 kings and 3  8's. He bets out £3.75 making the pot £10.35. I'm getting nearly3/1 for my money, with 15 outs, which is why i called. The river comes 8c giving me 2pairs....he checks so i just check behind him, winning the pot. Was it bad play?????
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debdobs_67

Dont listen to any comments in the chatbox , eezzz game then

BigRonnieC

You played it very well given your reads on him. If you folded every hand that missed the flop to a C-bet you be leaking money and easy to steamroll off pots. The turn brought you more outs and you were priced in to call with a well disguised hand (back door flush - and therefore great implied odds). The river brought a relative brick unless someone was chasing a gut shot.

You had a hand that was only of medium strength - top 2 pairs on the board with a K kicker. Not strong enough to value bet, no need to bluff, but certainly good enough to take to showdown so checking back was the perfect decision for such a hand.

If he's making half pot bets with no hand and he gets rivered he has only himself to blame. If you're going to fire two bullets as a bluff to get someone off their hand, 3/4 pot would be stronger. He could have slowed down and checked turn as you had called flop bet. Having then, apparently, not shown much strength throughout the hand with his bets, he didn't bet river so he reaped the consequences for his previous bad decisions.

grantorino

What are you basing your reads on? 

BigRonnieC

In Response to Re: Was it bad play???:

What are you basing your reads on? 
Posted by grantorino

Assuming if he said 3 bet PF was bullying it was a pattern of play? Good point though, be interesting to know why you had suspicions.

CHEWIN

In Response to Re: Was it bad play???:

In Response to Re: Was it bad play??? : Assuming if he said 3 bet PF was bullying it was a pattern of play? Good point though, be interesting to know why you had suspicions.
Posted by BigRonnieC

He hadnt been sat down at the table for very long, and was raising and re-raising pre-flop and post flop quite frequently with a wide range of hands, i felt he had been quite loose in the previous hands so i didnt give him much credit.

Batkin88

If you give yourself 15 outs 3 being 8's when you hit why are you not value betting????

Hmmmmm realistically if we didnt know his had you have 12 outs as i cant see how you think the 8's are good