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A few hands from tonight NL4

edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
I figure villain has a flush on the turn could i get more value? was worried betting the flop might scare off my customers.  Terrier922 seems to be a pretty solid player.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceameliorateSmall blind £0.02£0.02£3.08wiganwayBig blind £0.04£0.06£0.61OMGOMGOMGBig blind £0.04£0.10£0.96 Your hole cardsQ6   terrier922Call £0.04£0.14£1.73domdom08Fold    OMGOMGOMGCheck    irene1957Call £0.04£0.18£1.23ameliorateCall £0.02£0.20£3.06wiganwayCheck    Flop  Q8Q   ameliorateCheck    wiganwayCheck    terrier922Check    OMGOMGOMGCheck    irene1957Check    Turn  6   ameliorateCheck    wiganwayCheck    terrier922Bet £0.08£0.28£1.65OMGOMGOMGFold    irene1957Fold    ameliorateRaise £0.20£0.48£2.86wiganwayFold    terrier922Call £0.12£0.60£1.53River  3   ameliorateBet £0.60£1.20£2.26terrier922Call £0.60£1.80£0.93

I complete with AQo in SB looking to trap someone with a weaker ace any more value here?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceameliorateSmall blind £0.02£0.02£3.85MURRAYMAYBig blind £0.04£0.06£1.52 Your hole cardsAQ   terrier922Fold    domdom08Call £0.04£0.10£1.95OMGOMGOMGCall £0.04£0.14£1.44<span style="padding-bottom:0px;background-color:transparent;margin:0px;padding-left:0px

Comments

  • edited October 2011
    Q6 fold pre as played Bet flop, bet turn shove river

    AQ raise pre, 28-32p in this spot. Bet flop, bet turn commited on river so just jam

    Q9 fold pre
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: A few hands from tonight NL4:
    Q6 fold pre as played Bet flop, bet turn shove river AQ raise pre, 28-32p in this spot. Bet flop, bet turn commited on river so just jam Q9 fold pre
    Posted by The_Don90

    Q6 hand, don't mind making up from the small blind but you have to be willing to fold anything worse than trips. You need to bet the flop for value. You will get called by all kinds of rubbish, it's a five way pot and people will call with any 8, the other queen, two hearts, even a raggy ace. What can sometimes happen in these spots is you bet out say 12p and the next to act has hearts so calls, the next guy has a small pair and calls, the next guy has nothing but things he's priced in to call etc.

    Once you hit the super jin card on the turn you should bet again. If they have the flush they won't even consider that it's a paired board and will either call or more likely raise and then call your shove

    AQ raise pre-flop. At NL4 you will generally only get 3-bet by a player who has AQ crushed (AK, QQ+) or by a maniac with ATC. If you want to play AQ in a multi-way pot then raise to 12p everyone who limped will call you anyway and you have just inflated the pot by 300% (this is a good way to play 22-99 when set mining). When you flop the ace you can bet pot here. If he has an ace he's calling or he's folding, you bet size doesn't make a difference. But make it expensive if they have a straight draw. You win about £1.20 here, I think you could have got about £3 if you had raised more.

    Q9 insta-fold pre flop. Even if I were in the big blind and had seen the flop for free I would still fold the flop. You have 8 outs to hit a 4-card straight but two of those are spades which bring the flush. A spade on the turn or river is bad because it will scare either you or your opponent and reduce the value you can get from the hand. You have a 16% chance of get there on the turn, you opponent has less than £2 and you are only getting 3:1 on your money. When you get there you should be betting the turn and river for value. If he folds he folds.
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