There seems to have been a mis-understanding, which I'm going to try and explain.
Irishrover is very upset with me, and is claiming that I called him a cheat, and a liar.
This is not true, my comments were mis-interpreted.
I declared my dis-approval at the way the community awards process was run. The thread got out of hand, and had to be closed.
At NO POINT did I call Irishrover a cheat. I have no doubt that Irishrover had no intention of misleading people, including myself.
I would like to make it clear, I DO NOT THINK IRISHROVER is a cheat. He is not a cheat, he is a good, honest, helpful, friendly guy. Just because I dis-approve of the way the thread was run, does not mean I think any less of him as a person, or a poker player. I'm disappointed that he has interpreted my comments this way.
Sorry if people disapprove of this thread coming up AGAIN, but I'm sick and tired of these PM's I've been recieving, and this seems like the only thing I can do to draw a line under the incident.
As a result of yesterdays "incident" It seems that Irishrover is worried that his good name and reputation may have been tarnished. I'm sure this isn't true, and he is still respected by all forumers who will continue to enjoy his input.
Maybe the forum people can re-assure him on here that that isn't the case, and that his work is appreciated by us all.
I have said it umpteen times today in PM's, but I hope this really can be an end to the whole thing.
I don't care what people think, I can take criticism on the chin from all angles, but when it gets personal it isn't very pleasent.
So once again, I DO NOT THINK the Irish man was a liar, or a cheat, there was a mis-understanding and a dis-agreement with the way the votes were calculated, and subsequently, the way the awards were distributed.
I will be staying off his threads and comps in the future to avoid any further personality clashes. I hope you all continue to enjoy his good work, and I shall miss taking part in his competitions that have been imaginative and very well run in the past.
Once again, thank you for my award, and hope everybody enjoys their stars.
hmmmmm i wonder who these pms are from, dohhh are you going to name and shame
personally i feel when a disagreement happens in a forum post it is fine all part of the fun,if mods decide to close it because they think someone is out of line it is fine they are doin g their jobs
but when some person/persons start sending abusive/rude pms through to someone else it really shows just what they are all about..so to whoever is doing it, you are very sad pathetic pointless gutless individuals
Also i agree this is the right way to go about it rather then let it escalate, there is also a thread on Forum DTD on facebook where dohhh and i are slated. obviously JJ cannot defend himself here and it s a waste of time.
I Agree Dennis runs great comps and would be a shame for hi not to, if he personally doesnt want me and dohhh in them then just say and i wont enter but i would still like to be part of them as they are fantastically run.
Shame it went OTT on basis of a few opinions by myself and JJ, neither personal and never directed at the people running it just a query.
NVM we are all grown ups so can move on............
Also i agree this is the right way to go about it rather then let it escalate, there is also a thread on Forum DTD on facebook where dohhh and i are slated. obviously JJ cannot defend himself here and it s a waste of time. I Agree Dennis runs great comps and would be a shame for hi not to, if he personally doesnt want me and dohhh in them then just say and i wont enter but i would still like to be part of them as they are fantastically run. Shame it went OTT on basis of a few opinions by myself and JJ, neither personal and never directed at the people running it just a query. NVM we are all grown ups so can move on............ Posted by YOUNG_GUN
Mooooo-oooooo-oooooo-oooooobs like Jabba ! Now stop being a WUM !!!!! Let them fight for our amusement. That Browndawg " off the telly " was bored and don't care so why should we ? Have they deleted the original post ? Where's the love ?
Dohhhhh ive read through and to be brutally honest i dont see why your the one appoligising. I also dont see why your pulling out of all future forum comps.
Even for me i can see its blatantly obvious no one was called a cheat. And i dont read too good.
In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum. : Mooooo-oooooo-oooooo-oooooobs like Jabba ! Now stop being a WUM !!!!! Let them fight for our amusement. That Browndawg " off the telly " was bored and don't care so why should we ? Have they deleted the original post ? Where's the love ? Posted by BLACK_MASS
lol i love this, a cracking song, i reckon we should do a YG version.
I have to +1 Dohhhhhhh's OP. JJ has a direct style of posting that can sometimes appear confrontational, but is in fact brutally honest. I prefer to sit on the fence sometimes rather than confront situations and express my true opinion in public, so i do admire Dohhhhhhh's approach, because i wish i had his perception and the ability to think outside the box and not be afraid to take a seperate viewpoint. JJ has supported me privatley for months, and is a cracking laugh. Irishrover has also supported me too when ive needed a friendly ear. both have given me brilliant advice, as have many other forumers. I also hope i have helped others.
Sometimes Dohhhhhh does lack tact. this cant be disputed, but Its a fine line really, JJ needs to know that if you pee on someone's bonfire, you have to deal with the inevitable backlash. On this occasion, i think Dohhhhhh was frank and honest, but im certian he didnt mean to upset irish, elsa, or anyone. But i do understand their reaction, although some of the PM's may have gone a little too far.
Anyway, I think we should all move on and learn from this misunderstanding. But i think Irishman should continue to do his excellent work on the forum that we all appreciate, and that JJ should continue to be JJ. Were all in this together, lets not fall out over stupid things.
Anyway, I think we should all move on and learn from this misunderstanding. But i think Irishman should continue to do his excellent work on the forum that we all appreciate, and that JJ should continue to be JJ. Were all in this together, lets not fall out over stupid things. Posted by GREGHOGG
+1.
The one thing we can't deny is the boundless amounts of enthusiasm both JJ and Irish have to Sky Poker. They've contributed about 93.4% of all posts on here, after all*
Misunderstandings and conflicts happen. It's how we learn from it that defines us, right?
There seems to have been a mis-understanding, which I'm going to try and explain. Irishrover is very upset with me, and is claiming that I called him a cheat, and a liar. This is not true, my comments were mis-interpreted. I declared my dis-approval at the way the community awards process was run. The thread got out of hand, and had to be closed. At NO POINT did I call Irishrover a cheat. I have no doubt that Irishrover had no intention of misleading people, including myself. I would like to make it clear, I DO NOT THINK IRISHROVER is a cheat. He is not a cheat, he is a good, honest, helpful, friendly guy. Just because I dis-approve of the way the thread was run, does not mean I think any less of him as a person, or a poker player. I'm disappointed that he has interpreted my comments this way. Sorry if people disapprove of this thread coming up AGAIN, but I'm sick and tired of these PM's I've been recieving, and this seems like the only thing I can do to draw a line under the incident. As a result of yesterdays "incident" It seems that Irishrover is worried that his good name and reputation may have been tarnished. I'm sure this isn't true, and he is still respected by all forumers who will continue to enjoy his input. Maybe the forum people can re-assure him on here that that isn't the case, and that his work is appreciated by us all. I have said it umpteen times today in PM's, but I hope this really can be an end to the whole thing. I don't care what people think, I can take criticism on the chin from all angles, but when it gets personal it isn't very pleasent. So once again, I DO NOT THINK the Irish man was a liar, or a cheat, there was a mis-understanding and a dis-agreement with the way the votes were calculated, and subsequently, the way the awards were distributed. I will be staying off his threads and comps in the future to avoid any further personality clashes. I hope you all continue to enjoy his good work, and I shall miss taking part in his competitions that have been imaginative and very well run in the past. Once again, thank you for my award, and hope everybody enjoys their stars. JJ. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
This is a joke, all of us have wasted our time why bother even asking us all to vote Posted by YOUNG_GUN
This is a joke, all of us have wasted our time why bother even asking us all to vote Posted by YOUNG_GUN
yb
what does this post mean? were the awards not based upon the number of votes then?
doh
If you're gonna decide who gets what, you should think of people who deserve an award, and give them 1, no need for votes.
yg
Me and JJ and a few others have a right to say, im not too fussed about the ppl cant get more then 1 award but like i state i dis-believe the statement that it took that long and also the person who is 2nd and so on gets the awards.
doh
That'z coz the catagories weren't right.
Anyway w/e, if you canny handle constructive criticsm, maybe you're not the right man for the job anyway.
yg
All i have been asking is i dont believe that the person who came 2nd got the awards?
also i agree with JJ that the categories wasn;t that great(again my opinion)
yg
Finally can you put the vote counts for each category? im assuming you have this to hand as its taken so long. My main query is whether the next best gets the award in all cases
doh
We can do it again, properly, at the end of 2011........
doh
There's nowt to run, as I say, 10 sections, Get yer votes in, count em up, job done.
I wanna know what u guys did for 40 hours.....
yg +1 LOL ^^^^
Fact all the time i spent running comps were enjoyable up to this , as a forum volunteer we don't get anything return , we put hours and hours coming up with ideas , chasing after prizes , setting rules , over seeing probs that may arise .
This one was different reading all those comments above is just pure as simple nasty stuff indeed .
I had a right to defend myself from above nastiness , to ever action there is a reaction . If one is going to write this rubbish above and not expect a reaction from me , you have got no chance .
So whilst i except the apology my comp organizing days are over , i wont be wasting at more time on them , why would anyone in their right mind put hours in to receive such responses as above .
If someone wishes to step forward and take over the dym comp & the cash monthly comp that adam gave me the go ahead for , i would be more then happy to accommodate them . just pm me .
im not dragging this further as its no good for skypoker or the forum, Just get over it dennis. I dont see how us questioning you makes you assume it is a personal attack or whatever.
You certainly are reading too much into this, both myself and JJ have always got on really well with you. You help out everyone for like you say nothing in return which i admire all the work you do, all the comps you run are brilliant so it will be skypokers loss if you decide to hang up you forum comps/ideas
I have nothing else to say on this matter, as suggested a zillion times lets move on.... run good and play poker
Guys - it looks like there's a general consensus that there's been some misunderstandings here, so to avoid this dragging out and prevent any further confusion, lets close this thread and move on.
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personally i feel when a disagreement happens in a forum post it is fine all part of the fun,if mods decide to close it because they think someone is out of line it is fine they are doin g their jobs
but when some person/persons start sending abusive/rude pms through to someone else it really shows just what they are all about..so to whoever is doing it, you are very sad pathetic pointless gutless individuals
EDIT: have seen it now, was pretty harsh
I Agree Dennis runs great comps and would be a shame for hi not to, if he personally doesnt want me and dohhh in them then just say and i wont enter but i would still like to be part of them as they are fantastically run.
Shame it went OTT on basis of a few opinions by myself and JJ, neither personal and never directed at the people running it just a query.
NVM we are all grown ups so can move on............
Now stop being a WUM !!!!! Let them fight for our amusement. That Browndawg " off the telly " was bored and don't care so why should we ? Have they deleted the original post ?
Where's the love ?
Even for me i can see its blatantly obvious no one was called a cheat. And i dont read too good.
I dont have anything more to say on this matter.
I have to +1 Dohhhhhhh's OP. JJ has a direct style of posting that can sometimes appear confrontational, but is in fact brutally honest. I prefer to sit on the fence sometimes rather than confront situations and express my true opinion in public, so i do admire Dohhhhhhh's approach, because i wish i had his perception and the ability to think outside the box and not be afraid to take a seperate viewpoint. JJ has supported me privatley for months, and is a cracking laugh. Irishrover has also supported me too when ive needed a friendly ear. both have given me brilliant advice, as have many other forumers. I also hope i have helped others.
Sometimes Dohhhhhh does lack tact. this cant be disputed, but Its a fine line really, JJ needs to know that if you pee on someone's bonfire, you have to deal with the inevitable backlash. On this occasion, i think Dohhhhhh was frank and honest, but im certian he didnt mean to upset irish, elsa, or anyone. But i do understand their reaction, although some of the PM's may have gone a little too far.
Anyway, I think we should all move on and learn from this misunderstanding. But i think Irishman should continue to do his excellent work on the forum that we all appreciate, and that JJ should continue to be JJ. Were all in this together, lets not fall out over stupid things.
But respect to you dohx7 for this thread, you are indeed the better man.
The one thing we can't deny is the boundless amounts of enthusiasm both JJ and Irish have to Sky Poker. They've contributed about 93.4% of all posts on here, after all*
Misunderstandings and conflicts happen. It's how we learn from it that defines us, right?
* - that might be a slight exaggeration. Slight.
This is a joke, all of us have wasted our time why bother even asking us all to vote
Posted by YOUNG_GUN
Posted by YOUNG_GUN
yb
what does this post mean? were the awards not based upon the number of votes then?
doh
yg
Me and JJ and a few others have a right to say, im not too fussed about the ppl cant get more then 1 award but like i state i dis-believe the statement that it took that long and also the person who is 2nd and so on gets the awards.
doh
yg
All i have been asking is i dont believe that the person who came 2nd got the awards?
also i agree with JJ that the categories wasn;t that great(again my opinion)
yg
Finally can you put the vote counts for each category? im assuming you have this to hand as its taken so long. My main query is whether the next best gets the award in all cases
doh
There's nowt to run, as I say, 10 sections, Get yer votes in, count em up, job done.
yg +1 LOL ^^^^
Fact all the time i spent running comps were enjoyable up to this ,
as a forum volunteer we don't get anything return , we put hours and hours
coming up with ideas , chasing after prizes , setting rules , over seeing probs that
may arise .
This one was different reading all those comments above is just pure as simple nasty stuff indeed .
I had a right to defend myself from above nastiness ,
to ever action there is a reaction .
If one is going to write this rubbish above and not expect a reaction from me ,
you have got no chance .
So whilst i except the apology my comp organizing days are over ,
i wont be wasting at more time on them ,
why would anyone in their right mind put hours in to receive
such responses as above .
If someone wishes to step forward and take over the dym comp & the cash monthly
comp that adam gave me the go ahead for ,
i would be more then happy to accommodate them .
just pm me .
So that is it all comped out moi .
Denis .
im not dragging this further as its no good for skypoker or the forum, Just get over it dennis. I dont see how us questioning you makes you assume it is a personal attack or whatever.
You certainly are reading too much into this, both myself and JJ have always got on really well with you. You help out everyone for like you say nothing in return which i admire all the work you do, all the comps you run are brilliant so it will be skypokers loss if you decide to hang up you forum comps/ideas
I have nothing else to say on this matter, as suggested a zillion times lets move on.... run good and play poker
Regards
John
Guys - it looks like there's a general consensus that there's been some misunderstandings here, so to avoid this dragging out and prevent any further confusion, lets close this thread and move on.
Thanks everyone
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