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FAO Irishrover and the forum.

edited October 2011 in Poker Chat
But on a serious note, Denis is a top guy : ) soooo helpful

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  • edited October 2011

    There seems to have been a mis-understanding, which I'm going to try and explain.

    Irishrover is very upset with me, and is claiming that I called him a cheat, and a liar.

    This is not true, my comments were mis-interpreted. 

    I declared my dis-approval at the way the community awards process was run. The thread got out of hand, and had to be closed.

    At NO POINT did I call Irishrover a cheat. I have no doubt that Irishrover had no intention of misleading people, including myself. 

    I would like to make it clear, I DO NOT THINK IRISHROVER is a cheat. He is not a cheat, he is a good, honest, helpful, friendly guy. Just because I dis-approve of the way the thread was run, does not mean I think any less of him as a person, or a poker player. I'm disappointed that he has interpreted my comments this way. 

    Sorry if people disapprove of this thread coming up AGAIN, but I'm sick and tired of these PM's I've been recieving, and this seems like the only thing I can do to draw a line under the incident.

    As a result of yesterdays "incident" It seems that Irishrover is worried that his good name and reputation may have been tarnished. I'm sure this isn't true, and he is still respected by all forumers who will continue to enjoy his input.

    Maybe the forum people can re-assure him on here that that isn't the case, and that his work is appreciated by us all. 

    I have said it umpteen times today in PM's, but I hope this really can be an end to the whole thing. 

    I don't care what people think, I can take criticism on the chin from all angles, but when it gets personal it isn't very pleasent. 

    So once again, I DO NOT THINK the Irish man was a liar, or a cheat, there was a mis-understanding and a dis-agreement with the way the votes were calculated, and subsequently, the way the awards were distributed.

    I will be staying off his threads and comps in the future to avoid any further personality clashes. I hope you all continue to enjoy his good work, and I shall miss taking part in his competitions that have been imaginative and very well run in the past. 

    Once again, thank you for my award, and hope everybody enjoys their stars.

    JJ.
  • edited October 2011
    At times like these, I wish I was a lumberjack.
  • edited October 2011
    hmmmmm i wonder who these pms are from, dohhh are you going to name and shame

    personally i feel when a disagreement happens in a forum post it is fine all part of the fun,if mods decide to close it because they think someone is out of line it is fine they are doin g their jobs

    but when some person/persons start sending abusive/rude pms through to someone else it really shows just what they are all about..so to whoever is doing it, you are very sad pathetic pointless gutless individuals
  • edited October 2011
    I was bored so I decided to read through that thread. Dohhhh why on earth are you apologising after what was said to to you?
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    I was bored so I decided to read through that thread. Dohhhh why on earth are you apologising after what was said to to you?
    Posted by BrownnDog
    Where is that thread? I havn't seen it yet

    EDIT: have seen it now, was pretty harsh
  • edited October 2011
    Doh I saw your original comments and to me there was no way anyone can think that you actually called him a liar.

    But people are funny on the internet and read one thing but change it to mean something different.

    We all know that Irishrover is a vital part of the forum and hope that he continues doing his good work for the community.

    Stop sending PMs to Doh u melons
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    I was bored so I decided to read through that thread. Dohhhh why on earth are you apologising after what was said to to you?
    Posted by BrownnDog
    I'm not joking....... my internet cut out everytime I opened a new PM, like 5 times in 20 minutes and I got mega paranoid!!!!

    But nah an explanation, rather than an apology, seemed the only way out. 


  • edited October 2011
    Also i agree this is the right way to go about it rather then let it escalate, there is also a thread on Forum DTD on facebook where dohhh and i are slated. obviously JJ cannot defend himself here and it s a waste of time.

    I Agree Dennis runs great comps and would be a shame for hi not to, if he personally doesnt want me and dohhh in them then just say and i wont enter but i would still like to be part of them as they are fantastically run.

    Shame it went OTT on basis of a few opinions by myself and JJ, neither personal and never directed at the people running it just a query.

    NVM we are all grown ups so can move on............
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    Also i agree this is the right way to go about it rather then let it escalate, there is also a thread on Forum DTD on facebook where dohhh and i are slated. obviously JJ cannot defend himself here and it s a waste of time. I Agree Dennis runs great comps and would be a shame for hi not to, if he personally doesnt want me and dohhh in them then just say and i wont enter but i would still like to be part of them as they are fantastically run. Shame it went OTT on basis of a few opinions by myself and JJ, neither personal and never directed at the people running it just a query. NVM we are all grown ups so can move on............
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Mooooo-oooooo-oooooo-oooooobs like Jabba !
    Now stop being a WUM !!!!!   Let them fight for our amusement. That  Browndawg " off the telly " was bored and don't care so why should we ? Have they deleted the original post ?
    Where's the love ?
  • edited October 2011
    Dohhhhh ive read through and to be brutally honest i dont see why your the one appoligising. I also dont see why your pulling out of all future forum comps.

    Even for me i can see its blatantly obvious no one was called a cheat. And i dont read too good.

    I dont have anything more to say on this matter.
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum. : Mooooo-oooooo-oooooo-oooooobs like Jabba ! Now stop being a WUM !!!!!   Let them fight for our amusement. That  Browndawg " off the telly " was bored and don't care so why should we ? Have they deleted the original post ? Where's the love ?
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    lol i love this, a cracking song, i reckon we should do a YG version.

    I have to +1 Dohhhhhhh's OP. JJ has a direct style of posting that can sometimes appear confrontational, but is in fact brutally honest. I prefer to sit on the fence sometimes rather than confront situations and express my true opinion in public, so i do admire Dohhhhhhh's approach, because i wish i had his perception and the ability to think outside the box and not be afraid to take a seperate viewpoint. JJ has supported me privatley for months, and is a cracking laugh. Irishrover has also supported me too when ive needed a friendly ear. both have given me brilliant advice, as have many other forumers. I also hope i have helped others.

    Sometimes Dohhhhhh does lack tact. this cant be disputed, but Its a fine line really, JJ needs to know that if you pee on someone's bonfire, you have to deal with the inevitable backlash. On this occasion, i think Dohhhhhh was frank and honest, but im certian he didnt mean to upset irish, elsa, or anyone. But i do understand their reaction, although some of the PM's may have gone a little too far.

    Anyway, I think we should all move on and learn from this misunderstanding. But i think Irishman should continue to do his excellent work on the forum that we all appreciate, and that JJ should continue to be JJ. Were all in this together, lets not fall out over stupid things.

  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    I was bored so I decided to read through that thread. Dohhhh why on earth are you apologising after what was said to to you?
    Posted by BrownnDog
    This.

    But respect to you dohx7 for this thread, you are indeed the better man.
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    Anyway, I think we should all move on and learn from this misunderstanding. But i think Irishman should continue to do his excellent work on the forum that we all appreciate, and that JJ should continue to be JJ. Were all in this together, lets not fall out over stupid things.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    +1.

    The one thing we can't deny is the boundless amounts of enthusiasm both JJ and Irish have to Sky Poker. They've contributed about 93.4% of all posts on here, after all* :)

    Misunderstandings and conflicts happen. It's how we learn from it that defines us, right?


    * - that might be a slight exaggeration. Slight.
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to FAO Irishrover and the forum.:
    There seems to have been a mis-understanding, which I'm going to try and explain. Irishrover is very upset with me, and is claiming that I called him a cheat, and a liar. This is not true, my comments were mis-interpreted.  I declared my dis-approval at the way the community awards process was run. The thread got out of hand, and had to be closed. At NO POINT did I call Irishrover a cheat. I have no doubt that Irishrover had no intention of misleading people, including myself.  I would like to make it clear,  I DO NOT THINK IRISHROVER  is a cheat. He is not a cheat, he is a good, honest, helpful, friendly guy. Just because I dis-approve of the way the thread was run, does not mean I think any less of him as a person, or a poker player. I'm disappointed that he has interpreted my comments this way.  Sorry if people disapprove of this thread coming up AGAIN, but I'm sick and tired of these PM's I've been recieving, and this seems like the only thing I can do to draw a line under the incident. As a result of yesterdays "incident" It seems that Irishrover is worried that his good name and reputation may have been tarnished. I'm sure this isn't true, and he is still respected by all forumers who will continue to enjoy his input. Maybe the forum people can re-assure him on here that that isn't the case, and that his work is appreciated by us all.  I have said it umpteen times today in PM's, but I hope this really can be an end to the whole thing.  I don't care what people think, I can take criticism on the chin from all angles, but when it gets personal it isn't very pleasent.  So once again, I DO NOT THINK the Irish man was a liar, or a cheat, there was a mis-understanding and a dis-agreement with the way the votes were calculated, and subsequently, the way the awards were distributed. I will be staying off his threads and comps in the future to avoid any further personality clashes. I hope you all continue to enjoy his good work, and I shall miss taking part in his competitions that have been imaginative and very well run in the past.  Once again, thank you for my award, and hope everybody enjoys their stars. JJ.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    This is a joke, all of us have wasted our time why bother even asking us all to vote
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN


    This is a joke, all of us have wasted our time why bother even asking us all to vote
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN


    yb

    what does this post mean? were the awards not based upon the number of votes then?


    doh
    If you're gonna decide who gets what, you should think of people who deserve an award, and give them 1, no need for votes. 


    yg


    Me and JJ and a few others have a right to say, im not too fussed about the ppl cant get more then 1 award but like i state i dis-believe the statement that it took that long and also the person who is 2nd and so on gets the awards.


    doh

    That'z coz the catagories weren't right. 

    Anyway w/e, if you canny handle constructive criticsm, maybe you're not the right man for the job anyway. 


    yg

    All i have been asking is i dont believe that the person who came 2nd got the awards?

    also i agree with JJ that the categories wasn;t that great(again my opinion)


    yg

    Finally can you put the vote counts for each category? im assuming you have this to hand as its taken so long. My main query is whether the next best gets the award in all cases



    doh

    We can do it again, properly, at the end of 2011........


    doh

    There's nowt to run, as I say, 10 sections, Get yer votes in, count em up, job done.

    I wanna know what u guys did for 40 hours.....

    yg +1   LOL ^^^^



    Fact all the time i spent running comps were enjoyable up to this ,
    as a forum volunteer we don't get anything return , we put hours and hours
    coming up with ideas , chasing after prizes , setting rules , over seeing probs that
    may arise .


    This one was different reading all those comments above is just pure as simple nasty stuff indeed .

    I had a right to defend myself from above nastiness ,
    to ever action there is a reaction .
    If one is going to write this rubbish above and not expect  a reaction from me ,
    you have got no chance .

    So whilst i except the apology my comp organizing days are over ,
    i wont be wasting at more time on them ,
    why would anyone in their right mind put hours in to receive
    such responses as above .

    If someone wishes to step forward and take over the dym comp & the cash monthly
    comp that adam gave me the go ahead for ,
    i would be more then happy to accommodate them .
    just pm me .


    So that is it all comped out moi .

    Denis .










  • edited October 2011
    Wow!

    im not dragging this further as its no good for skypoker or the forum, Just get over it dennis. I dont see how us questioning you makes you assume it is a personal attack or whatever.

    You certainly are reading too much into this, both myself and JJ have always got on really well with you. You help out everyone for like you say nothing in return which i admire all the work you do, all the comps you run are brilliant so it will be skypokers loss if you decide to hang up you forum comps/ideas :(

    I have nothing else to say on this matter, as suggested a zillion times lets move on.... run good and play poker

    Regards
    John
  • edited October 2011

    Guys - it looks like there's a general consensus that there's been some misunderstandings here, so to avoid this dragging out and prevent any further confusion, lets close this thread and move on.

    Thanks everyone

    Sky Poker

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