Satellites Strategy....

Sky_Poker

Hi everyone

As you know, there's a lot of buzz around about UKOPS, especially since we launched the satellites this week. Anyway, this got us thinking, why not start a thread for people to share hints & tips on strategy in satellites.

Away you go!.....

Tikay10

fold

scotty77

ALL IN

Tikay10

CALL!

scotty77

SERIOUSLY THO....folding is better

YOUNG_GUN

LIMP ...

scotty77

In Response to Re: Satellites Strategy....:

CALL!
Posted by Tikay10

I'm afraid I have the nuts sir, so your J high hero call is no good.  UL GG.

Sky_Poker

Lol. How long before we get a serious post?

delaney09

nit up majority of it obviously play your big hands strong, when having a dominating chip stack don't feel like you should be the one to take on the role of busting everybody sit back and what the carnage people are more than capable of taking each other out with it doing relatively little damage to your stack

i fold most hands early on apart from mid-high pocket pairs once ive doubled/trebled my starting stack and in a good position i play literally no hands from then on in to the FT its not like a normal tournament if you feel you have the stack to now go on and win a seat if you are say 5handed and 2/5 in chips with 3/4 getting seats do the right thing let the short stacks attack theirselves, thats how i have got both of my seats so far all that works for me but obviously i know there are people who like to play a lot of hands if you want to play a lot of hands after a good start only a couple of words to what to do there and thats get lucky for the rest of the satellite as playing tonnes of hands if definitely not the right way to go about playing satellites

logdon

Sit Out till five big blinds then all in every hand.?  What!

splashies

RUN GOOD

spornybol

PRAY A LOT

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: Satellites Strategy....:

RUN GOOD
Posted by splashies

THIS

SoLack

Identify serial folders and nick their blinds

penguin7

Obviously patience is the key.

I like to have an early good idea of what sort of stack will be needed at bubble time and make decisions accordingly. An average stack is often plenty. If I am below this I prefer to make decisive plays before the bubble is reached, and look for spots where I can shove from position against the right opponents.

I also think it is a must to observe any other tables from as early a stage as possible. If you change table, information about the opening range of players to your right, and calling range of those to your left is invaluable.

When the bubble is reached, this is even more important. Hand for hand play is a great help now too. Often you can identify a player on the other table who is likely to lose patience quickly,or a situation where you can see there are two players there who are bound to clash.

So you know that you can afford to wait even if your stack drops below average. Only get involved if you are confident enough to put all of your chips in the middle. Clever plays do not work at this stage. Keep folding if you cant shove. The most dangerous situation to me is when I am small blind in an unopened pot. That better than marginal hand is so tempting, but usually should be folded.

Something else that is very relevant is a situation that came up in the TSP final on Sunday. With 6 players getting through we had a table of 3, and a table of 4. John Connor was unlucky to be the shortstack on the table of 3. And although I was short on the other table, I had a huge advantage over him as he was having to post blinds more often. And this definitely made a big difference.

debdobs_67

Please please stop givin tips , dont wanna make it any harder than it is.

This thread has run its course , please delete )

Eyeman

The actual chip-stack you will need at the bubble will (at most) be 2/3 of the average stack (the more you have, the more comfortable life will be).

Getting chips early can be key, but don't donk in order to do so. Play premiums strongly - people WILL call you.

Play slowly at the bubble (especially if uneven tables in your favour). DO NOT COLLUDE, but it makes sense for you to allow the blinds to pass, if others allow them to pass to you. 

Always raise to the BB of the short-stack - they must not be allowed to coast to a seat.

Once you have a comfortable stack - fold everything (yes, i DO mean aces) until it makes no sense not to call (i.e. your BB is 75% of the short stack's shove), in those cases call with any 2. It is NOT the big stack's job to bust the small stacks - the small stacks have to play one another - the big stack has already earnt their place in the tournament.

FlyingDagg

Easy answer Debs. Read Delaney's and Penguin's posts and then make sure your at a table where there are players who don't read the forums.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Satellites Strategy....:

Easy answer Debs. Read Delaney's and Penguin's posts and then make sure your at a table where there are players who don't read the forums.
Posted by FlyingDagg

now thats a gd idea xx

FlashFlush

Don't ask me, it took me 11 attempts to get into SPT Swansea last year and that was only 1 in 5!

aussie09

In Response to Re: Satellites Strategy....:

Obviously patience is the key. I like to have an early good idea of what sort of stack will be needed at bubble time and make decisions accordingly. An average stack is often plenty. If I am below this I prefer to make decisive plays before the bubble is reached, and look for spots where I can shove from position against the right opponents. I also think it is a must to observe any other tables from as early a stage as possible. If you change table, information about the opening range of players to your right, and calling range of those to your left is invaluable. When the bubble is reached, this is even more important. Hand for hand play is a great help now too. Often you can identify a player on the other table who is likely to lose patience quickly,or a situation where you can see there are two players there who are bound to clash. So you know that you can afford to wait even if your stack drops below average. Only get involved if you are confident enough to put all of your chips in the middle. Clever plays do not work at this stage. Keep folding if you cant shove. The most dangerous situation to me is when I am small blind in an unopened pot. That better than marginal hand is so tempting, but usually should be folded. Something else that is very relevant is a situation that came up in the TSP final on Sunday. With 6 players getting through we had a table of 3, and a table of 4. John Connor was unlucky to be the shortstack on the table of 3. And although I was short on the other table, I had a huge advantage over him as he was having to post blinds more often . And this definitely made a big difference.
Posted by penguin7

don't sit next to penguin7

unknown_username

Dont sit next to you   lol

TommyD

Early Stages - Normal MTT Strategy with a slightly tighter range.  Keep it pretty ABC, getting fancy can see you get in trouble as you will encounter several players who have no concept of satellite strategy (that's here, across all internet poker and live.  The knowledge gap is still amazing).

Middle Stages - If you are a large stack, happy days.  Now tight is right.  I would advise you not to be the table bully.  You have the comfort of a very healthy stack, pick your spots very carefully.

If you are a medium stack this is the hardest stack to play.  You need to be identifying weak blinds, limp/folders and serial thieves who will put down a good chunk of their opening range.  TAG would be my advice but to loosen the leash in regards to the aforementioned spots.  Don't over do it though, you don't want people to start turning the tables back on you.

If you are a short stack, lovely brainless poker.  We need a double.  We employ a healthy reshove range and we take a flip if it comes up.

Late stages - Fun times.  I'll address this advice to the present UKOPS Sats as I have seen them.  If we're big and can fold into the seats, do it and fold AA pre, no special prize for getting all the chippys here.  If we need to play, at this stage it is unlikely we ever have a stack (or effective stack) to have more than the Shove or Fold options.  If you are stealing the best stacks to steal from are the mediums (the ones who can fold for a seat but not comfortability).  The main spots you are looking to shove light from are the SB and the button.  Equally you should be tightening your calling range but stay aware of who is stealing your blinds and adjust your range form there.  Also don't over over do it (you can over do it a bit but not too much) or you will get called crazy wide.  Currently on the money bubble in a 55 DYM the normal reg calling range versus me is any pair, any Ace, any King and Q9+.  Makes life difficult for me and I would not advise you to use this calling range near the bubble on a Sat.  Unless it's against me of course, seems to work for people.

Machka

Check the lobby to find out how many places award a seat.

Finish in one of those places.

Dozza

I take the same approach to these as I do for 30p dym's i.e. go all-in every hand.