Second pair in position vs. aggro opponent

Wilhelm

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
XXX	Small blind		4000.00	4000.00	120509.92
Wilhelm	Big blind		8000.00	12000.00	211622.72
	Your hole cards	Q 10
skeets	Fold
XXX	Raise		12000.00	24000.00	108509.92
Wilhelm	Call		8000.00	32000.00	203622.72
Flop
		K 5 6
XXX	Bet		16000.00	48000.00	92509.92
Wilhelm	Call		16000.00	64000.00	187622.72
Turn
		Q
XXX	Check
Wilhelm	Check
River
		8
XXX	Check
Wilhelm	?

Wilhelm

So, I get to the river with a lot of showdown value, and it's here that I want to extract some more value.  I'm thinking that if I put in about 40k I'll probably only get called by better and if I put in any less I'm likely to get check raised as a bluff or for value and I'm not sure of the bluff/value ratio and whether he would check the turn and river with a value hand (probably not though).  So anyway, how should I play the river?

Mr_Miyagi

If you don't know where you are and are worried about what he will do if you bet just check it and don't put yourself in the awkward position.

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Second pair in position vs. aggro opponent:

If you don't know where you are and are worried about what he will do if you bet just check it and don't put yourself in the awkward position.
Posted by Mr_Miyagi

I probably haven't explained myself very well.  I am pretty sure he will shove with a lot of hands if I bet small on the river, so in this sense, I'm not worried about what he will do.  The point I'm really making is is it worth the risk?

PiAnOpLaYa

def check back.


what made you call the flop bet?

DOHHHHHHH

Shove/fold pre.

fold flop.

I'd bet now.

Dunno what he can call with exactly but can't see us ever being behind either.

grantorino

fold or shove pre

after you flat pre I like the float

turn fine.

if you think betting small induces a shove then bet small and call it off, it also has benefit that he may crying call with weak hands. I'd check back readless though

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Second pair in position vs. aggro opponent:

def check back. what made you call the flop bet?
Posted by PiAnOpLaYa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_(play)