right to raise the turn?

pod1

should i have just flatted the turn and jammed the river, or was it right to raise it to make it easier to get tPlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceDarkforceSmall blind £0.10£0.10£12.41pops1Big blind £0.20£0.30£20.06smarrSit out     Your hole cardsK9   tillersCall £0.20£0.50£12.07pod1Raise £0.80£1.30£21.40DarkforceCall £0.70£2.00£11.71pops1Fold    tillersFold    Flop  K9K   DarkforceBet £1.50£3.50£10.21pod1Call £1.50£5.00£19.90Turn  7   DarkforceBet £2.50£7.50£7.71pod1Raise £5.00£12.50£14.90DarkforceFold    pod1Muck    pod1Win £9.50 £24.40pod1Return £2.50£0.50£26.90Close windowNexthe last of it on the river?

Mr_Miyagi

You have the nuts why raise and give him chance to fold? call it and let him fire again hope he catches something.

pod1

im thinking they have hit already due to raises going in. if i flat is £7 a big jump on the river, surely splitting it over 2 streets would be better?

Dudeskin8

With stack size probably just call let him shove river.

grantorino

flat turn, he only has 3/4 pot behind if you flat, so flatting allows him continue with bluffs, any riverbet will commit him and you can easily shove if he checks as you are ip.

unknown_username

Flat turn. The beauty of this hand is the fact you have position on villain so you can see what he is up to prior to your action. Flatting allows him to fire again on the river which should commit him to the pot, if he doesnt bet out on the river, you are finding a value bet on the end to get maximum off him.

nh sir!

rancid

flat and shove river

unknown_username

deffo just flat let him shove the river if he checks then u shove u got the nuts
need to look at stack size there

jugglegeek

The only way he can improve on the river is if he has 7s or 9s full and the case card comes out on the river or he has a better king and he fills up on the river; if you call the pot is £10 leaving him £7.71 behind; and the villian likely has trips or two pair with an ace kicker.

Raising here is value losing madness. There are so many ways to get it all in on the river and if he doesn't call it then you win just as much. The only reason to raise here is if you suspect that your opponent is good enough to put you on your exact hand and to confuse him into thinking "nobody would raise here if they had the nuts so he must therefore not have the nuts". Unless you are playing Phil Ivey or someone then you don't need to do that.

pod1

messed that up a bit then, been playing a lot of nl 4 and nl 8 recently and them bug g er s would have called the raise. nl 20 shoulda played it a bit better than that. cheers for feed back.   phil

pilgrim07

In Response to Re: right to raise the turn?:

messed that up a bit then, been playing a lot of nl 4 and nl 8 recently and them bug g er s would have called the raise. nl 20 shoulda played it a bit better than that. cheers for feed back.   phil
Posted by pod1

We of the nl4 fish community object to this type of stereotyping. Please watch your language young man! LOL

pod1

lol, we swim in the same waters my friend :-)

Andyl1986

Smooth call as others have said.  

Unless you have him on AA and was worried about him spiking an A on the river