KK A high flop facing small donkbet

Dudeskin8

Player isn't great, not REG, mainly just limps, calls raises pre.

welshjam	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£4.72
x	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£10.12
dykes12	Big blind		£0.20	£0.50	£4.80
	Your hole cards	K K
DN34689	Fold
jme_86	Fold
dykes12	Check
Dudeskin8	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£23.08
welshjam	Call		£0.70	£2.00	£4.02
x	Call		£0.60	£2.60	£9.52
dykes12	Fold
Flop
		10 Q A
welshjam	Check
x	Bet		£0.60	£3.20	£8.92
Dudeskin8

Batkin88

tbh i would be shutting down with that flop and 2 callers.
2 choices really forget the donk bet and raise it to what your c bet would of been or just fold and credit one with the ace set or str8 horrible flop for kings.

You can call and hope you hit your jack but if you do your value has gone

GREGHOGG

call

debdobs_67

No point foldin for 60p mate , might as well call and take it from there

IDONKCALLU

that is such a small donk bet lead out of 60 p u are the preflop raiser i would raise this up to around £2 if u get called u still have outs imo i defo raise this represent a big hand as u was preflop raiser u can get all ace rags to fold etc  

The_Don90

im probably raiseing to £2 - £2.50 ish

option b is flat.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: KK A high flop facing small donkbet:

call
Posted by GREGHOGG

dis!

U shud give 1 word answers more often, you might get alot more right!

Dudeskin8

Ok so did that but now what....?

welshjam	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£4.72
x	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£10.12
dykes12	Big blind		£0.20	£0.50	£4.80
	Your hole cards	K K
DN34689	Fold
jme_86	Fold
dykes12	Check
Dudeskin8	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£23.08
welshjam	Call		£0.70	£2.00	£4.02
x	Call		£0.60	£2.60	£9.52
dykes12	Fold
Flop
		10 Q A
welshjam	Check
x	Bet		£0.60	£3.20	£8.92
Dudeskin8	Call		£0.60	£3.80	£22.48
welshjam	Fold
Turn
		8
x	Bet		£0.80	£4.60	£8.12
Dudeskin8

Mr_Miyagi

easy call again

IDONKCALLU

y call dnt understand u are the preflop raise so if some 1 is donk betting on the flop u have got 2 raise u are the preflop raiser u can get all ace rags to fold if u raise it up in my opinion 

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: KK A high flop facing small donkbet:

y call dnt understand u are the preflop raise so if some 1 is donk betting on the flop u have got 2 raise u are the preflop raiser u can get all ace rags to fold if u raise it up in my opinion 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

totally disagree with this

some villains think a pair of aces is the nuts and they are never folding. If we raise bigish on the flop its not for value as it is unlikely that any worse hands continue. I dont see the point of turning our hand into a bluff.

I think we can safely call the turn again. We could still be ahead, but if we raise were inflating a pot where we could be crushed and again more than likely folding out anything that we beat.

the villains donk bets are pathetic. I think they have the 10, the Q possibly 10j or QJ, or maybe a weak raggy ace. From the playing style mentioned, i wouldnt be surprised to see a raggy ace. suppose we cant rule the nuts out either but thats unlikely as we hold 2 kings.

sry dohhhh thats more than 1 word, so i expect you think what i have said is nonsense lol

silentbob

In Response to Re: KK A high flop facing small donkbet:

In Response to Re: KK A high flop facing small donkbet : totally disagree with this some villains think a pair of aces is the nuts and they are never folding. If we raise bigish on the flop its not for value as it is unlikely that any worse hands continue. I dont see the point of turning our hand into a bluff. I think we can safely call the turn again. We could still be ahead, but if we raise were inflating a pot where we could be crushed and again more than likely folding out anything that we beat. the villains donk bets are pathetic. I think they have the 10, the Q possibly 10j or QJ, or maybe a weak raggy ace. From the playing style mentioned, i wouldnt be surprised to see a raggy ace. suppose we cant rule the nuts out either but thats unlikely as we hold 2 kings. sry dohhhh thats more than 1 word, so i expect you think what i have said is nonsense lol
Posted by GREGHOGG

I was gonna type something along the lines of this but Greg says it so much better than I would've.

Make the call here

FlashFlush

FML I agree with Greg ;-)

grantorino

lol at raising flop or turn, call both looks ok, but I dont hate folding flop

debdobs_67

Yep easy call again , now showustheriver dude

IDONKCALLU

1 word loooooooool we all play hands diffrently i would play this hand different to all your posts 

BigRonnieC

I'd play it fairly passively hoping for a Jack to fall.. others might be praying for a straight too, of course, but you're beaten by any ace, and the board is screaming 2 pair or straight. Maybe this reaction is my ptsd from KK having horror beats (except my massive all in pre flop suck out with KK v AA on 10p/20p last saturday... we'll forget the nice stories)

NColley

Sighcall both streets, and call weak river bet. Just as likely to be doing this w/ bottom pair as they are an A.

GREGHOGG

Dude, update on this hand please? What did u do on the turn?

Dudeskin8

I folded cus I iz a dirty nit, plus just felt like I was being milked and din't fancy calling a decent bet on the river.