You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
Sky Poker forums will be temporarily unavailable from 11pm Wednesday July 25th.
Sky Poker Forums is upgrading its look! Stay tuned for the big reveal!
AK vs NL4 reg. Thoughts please
I've seen rancid on plenty of tables at NL4 and he seems a solid play but he likes to play hands. I was a bit upset after this hand but thinking about it in the cold light of day (about 15 minutes later) did either of us do anything wrong? Thinking now that I might have been lucky that he only had a flush draw. My reasons for the 3-bet shove were
a) I have the ace of clubs
b) a ten chops the pot if he has AT and wins if he has T9
c) I have an over card to make a better two pair if he has two pair.
d) Finally I have top pair top kicker which might be good enough
Considering that this is a reg, is it worth just giving it up and getting money off the idiots instead?
a) I have the ace of clubs
b) a ten chops the pot if he has AT and wins if he has T9
c) I have an over card to make a better two pair if he has two pair.
d) Finally I have top pair top kicker which might be good enough
Considering that this is a reg, is it worth just giving it up and getting money off the idiots instead?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dendrobe | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £4.26 | |
| fred10 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £4.50 | |
| LugeMal | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.10 | £3.16 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| myhoneyz09 | Fold | ||||
| jugglegeek | Raise | £0.24 | £0.34 | £3.76 | |
| LugeMal | Fold | ||||
| rancid | Call | £0.24 | £0.58 | £3.36 | |
| Dendrobe | Fold | ||||
| fred10 | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| jugglegeek | Bet | £0.44 | £1.02 | £3.32 | |
| rancid | Raise | £1.54 | £2.56 | £1.82 | |
| jugglegeek | All-in | £3.32 | £5.88 | £0.00 | |
| rancid | All-in | £1.82 | £7.70 | £0.00 | |
| jugglegeek | Unmatched bet | £0.40 | £7.30 | £0.40 | |
| jugglegeek | Show |
| |||
| rancid | Show |
| |||
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| River | |||||
| |||||
| rancid | Win | Flush to the King | £6.75 | £6.75 | |
Comments
Don't be so "results orientated" :-) I was just wondering if I should be doing this on such a wet board with no fold equity against an above average player for the level.
Just fold next time, it saves the pain - you cant' flat my raise and you know I am not folding so.. you could be in really bad shape.
Maybe you should fold, your beating btm of my raising range there so...
I don't blame you for calling
Also at least you've started calling big raises IP with SC's
OP you can fold this flop. Not the best for AK, although we do have a re-draw im not comfortable with it.
Rancid. I dislike the call pre. Against people like myself, Dudeskin and Junglegeek i think it might possibly be profitably but on the whole at NL4 one of the blinds can easily flat behind with J2 of our suit therefore we're now drawing to our straight only. Also againb the flop, Surley you know your drawing to our flush and this flop slaps Junglegeeks range harder in the face than we can imagine. I therefore dislike bluffing at it, and often we'll be in 30% against 2 pair or potentially worse v a set.
Neither of you are sitting full stacks, please use that reload function. I do it every time i pass through a blind.
Sorry if this sounds critical but its really my view.
I prob fold to flop raise v 4NL reg
I dont think I like rancids raise either without pretty good reads
Against an unknown I probably fold when I get raised on the flop, but I felt that rancid may be trying to exploit my nitlike tendancies. I respect the play from rancid but I don't think he has enough fold equity against my range, I'm not folding JJ, QQ, KK, KQ and AT to anyone. That pretty much leave AK and AA which I might fold.
Your plan when you flat pre has to be different for different boards. Also even if his range is wider, its not a board regs cbet with air that often.
Therefore instead of flatting v a tight open - it would make more sense to flat v a wide open therefore giving yourself more of a chance oppo will fold to the semi bluff on the flop or play position v there wide open
Just talking about the play in general not his very hand )
And yes Dudeskin, it would be setting fire to money if you always done this with SC's, we agree on that )
But it's not something I would do v some random so...
But thats the beauty of the semi bluff isn't it, if it dont' work you hopefully have outs )
Doesn't mean we can't discuss the wider picture here, or do we not talk about poker here - just spew the rules of ABC NL4 poker
Like, for example, Im pretty sure you could beat it doing something like never flatting a bet. Wouldnt mean its optimal though. I would think scs can be played profitably in certain situations at 4NL (not saying this hand is one of them), although I wouldnt be playing them too often
Rancid, I liked the idea tbh, but you just picked a flop that smacked his range right in the face.
I think if you are playing a nitty reg then flatting a raise pre with any two, may be profitable, if you can take it away on flops that don't hit their range. If Juggle is overly tight then this will be most of them.