what am I doing wrong?

colnic1970

hi all,

the situation" after deal, I start with good hole cards ak, aq, kq ect, or pocket pair I raise preflop opponent re-raises, I call,
flop comes I hit something? either 2pr, flush, straight, or some other combo,
I shove it all in as advised by JK and others hoping to take down the pot early, but get called, only to be out drawn  on turn or river this seems to happen every time.

its becomming quite fustrating now.  what am I doing wrong???
as nobody is that unlucky so consistantly,

thanks

grantorino

you are running badly. Try adjusting your stride

step7

Stop calling reraises?

colnic1970

how??
 some times it feels like both legs are tied togetter it happens that often

colnic1970

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong?:

Stop calling reraises?
Posted by step7

sure but my point was most times the reraiser was bluffing showing say 2 odd cards off suit but still managed to out draw me, surely  a fold is the wrong thing to do.

Crunchybob

Dont know who JK is but shoving on a flop after hitting 2 pair etc..is a bad idea, most of the time the opponent will just fold and you'll not get much value, if your're getting outdrawn then on the turn or river say to a flush, if u havent gone all in on flop it gives u chance to get away from the hand.

maybe post some hands for some guys to look at and tell u where ur going wrong

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong?:

Stop calling reraises?
Posted by step7

All of the time ?? even when ahead ?? like to know how you win moniez then ??

Twenny_P

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong?:

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong? : sure but my point was most times the reraiser was bluffing showing say 2 odd cards off suit but still managed to out draw me, surely  a fold is the wrong thing to do.
Posted by colnic1970

Not if it means you still stay and get to play the next hand!! Sometimes you have to fold the winning hand to carry on...

It is all about the 7 cards not just the ones on show!!

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong?:

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong? : Not if it means you still stay and get to play the next hand!! Sometimes you have to fold the winning hand to carry on... It is all about the 7 cards not just the ones on show!!
Posted by Twenny_P

So goin on the info that the OP has given ure sayin FOLD cos ya will still see the next hand ?? even when the OP shoves on flop OR turn with the best hand ?? really ??

colnic1970

it happened again tonite in free roll and crippled me just after break

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
colnic1970	Small blind		400.00	400.00	18495.00
jeffo22	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	21850.00
	Your hole cards	9 8
OLDMAN04	Fold
Pavillion	Fold
Param3dic	Call		800.00	2000.00	10450.00
SkinnyBird	Fold
colnic1970	Call		400.00	2400.00	18095.00
jeffo22	Check
Flop
		7 10 6
colnic1970	Bet		2400.00	4800.00	15695.00
jeffo22	Fold
Param3dic	All-in		10450.00	15250.00	0.00
colnic1970	Call		8050.00	23300.00	7645.00
colnic1970	Show	9 8
Param3dic	Show	A 3
Turn
		K
River
		J
Param3dic	Win	Flush to the Ace	23300.00		23300.00

he went all inn with ace high and a possible flush draw reraising my bet on the turn while I had the straight on the flop he won on the river with j clubs

AcidMan27

You're doing nothing wrong.

Part of poker is being able to deal with the losses, especially in tournament play.

I would advise that in freerolls players will gamble alot more.

Batkin88

Hand shown is standard and he is drawing to the nuts so money is going in. Dont limp into hands raise or fold dont play freerolls and get annoyed withg losing as you will lose in freerolls. Try only playing pots your the initial raiser in and fold to 3bets. Keep betting and never ever ever ever donk bet onto flops

DOUGIE123

nothin

grantorino

pre is a standard fold in hand you posted

colnic1970

hi thanks for the advice but I am still confused a bit, some say fold preflop some say bet after flop, but this is what I did,
preflop, all though my hand was not strong I was on small blind all other players  folded player A limped in with just a call big blind checked it was only 400 to see the flop, after hitting a straight on the flop I did a standard 3x bet but was immedatly reraised by the all'in, given the cards on show and being on a cast iron straight i called as could not see any hand that would put me behind playerA had been play aggressivley all nite and winning pots by frightning other players into folding the best hand with all in's yes there was a possible flush draw BUT??

what would you have done

the OP was about consistanly losing in  similar situations the one posted just the latest incident in a long line of losses at the tables

waynec

Dont play so many hands, learn to use the fold button, if you are going to play a weak hand like 89 raise we really dont want to play this in a multi way pot, if they 3bet your weak hand muck it..... if you cant pump a hand dump it, use the fold button more and you will win more long term!

colnic1970

In Response to Re: what am I doing wrong?:

Dont play so many hands, learn to use the fold button, if you are going to play a weak hand like 89 raise we really dont want to play this in a multi way pot, if they 3bet your weak hand muck it..... if you cant pump a hand dump it, use the fold button more and you will win more long term!
Posted by waynec

thanks mate read your post and it struck a nerve, going over the hand history discovered 70% of the lossed pots were due to the re-raiser hitting a flush draw on turn or river.

bearing this in mind the last tourney I played in I deliberatly folded if re-raised post flop even when it turned out to be a winning hand. the consequence was instead of being dump out the tourney it kept my seat alive and although loosing a few chips along the way managed to get my FIRST payday on sky poker comming second

thanks again.