can i fold here xD

sillymunch

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesillymunchSmall blind £0.02£0.02£6.40wavey77Big blind £0.04£0.06£9.04 Your hole cardsQQ   codCall £0.04£0.10£3.52styxxFold    chippy67Fold    willshir06Call £0.04£0.14£0.33sillymunchRaise £0.18£0.32£6.22wavey77Call £0.16£0.48£8.88codFold    willshir06Fold    Flop  J53   sillymunchBet £1.04£1.52£5.18wavey77Call £1.04£2.56£7.84Turn  2   sillymunchAll-in £5.18£7.74£0.00wavey77Call £5.18£12.92£2.66sillymunchShowQQ   wavey77Show2J   River  10   wavey77WinTwo Pairs, Jacks and 2s£11.95 £14.61

rancid

No you shoved first )

Lambert180

Lol well yeah as Rancid said, but more seriously... I think your bet on the turn is WAY too big, the only thing that MIGHT and I do use the word might call your bet, that you're beating is AJ and even that, plenty of people wouldnt call.

So basically, when you make this bet, if you're ahead, you'll make them fold, and if they call, you're gonna lose lol.

rancid

Essentially Sillymunch when you bet think about what hand can actually call the bet
Think about why your betting
He called your bet on the flop so just overbet pot again, which is what you done so really it was ok

ul

sillymunch

ok so the reason for my huge bet here is because the fact he called my first raise showed me he had a Jack, since he had the top card and he called my original raise i assumed he would have AJ or something like that, when the 2 appears its not a scare card to me, then i was about to do a standard sized raise which was half my stack so if i made the raise i was pot commited and thats the reasoning behind the shove

btw if my logic is flawwed then please tell me cus thats the reason im here for xD to try and understand the logic

Dudeskin8

Preflop I would raise a LOT more at least 26p as you're in worse position postflop.

Flop anywhere up to pot bet is fine, but I guess if you know he calls with TP no kicker go ahead lol.

Turn he gets VERY lucky to get 2pr but again the bet is much too big around 75% will do, although if shoved here I'd find it hard to fold.

DOHHHHHHH

Big bets are gudddd. Unlucky man.

You had outs, get there next time

unknown_username

Raise bigger pre flop. I make it at least 20p but more like 30p, dont worry if they all fold, if you do it often enough they'll start calling!

Like the flop bet at NL4, charge the draws. Also dont mind the shove too much as most will call if they have a Jack. Unlucky really.  

sillymunch

thanks a bit of mixed responses, but i have taken em all on board

after thinking about it, unless he did have A J i dont think he would of called the all in :S he might be that bad, but he left the table 12 pound up for the session so i am guessing he thinks he is playing right xD so maybe i get him back next time

things im gonna take on board "positioning, if im in low position with these sort of cards then i am going to be acting first everytime i need to raise bigger pre to avoid making difficult decisions later

Decision after the flop was a good raise size

But i should of probably Raised pot size again and called a shove.

At NL4 theres no way i wouldnt be calling the shove with that board.

anything else you guys can think of please dont hesitate to mention it

The_Don90

In Response to Re: can i fold here xD:

thanks a bit of mixed responses, but i have taken em all on board after thinking about it, unless he did have A J i dont think he would of called the all in :S he might be that bad, but he left the table 12 pound up for the session so i am guessing he thinks he is playing right xD so maybe i get him back next time things im gonna take on board "positioning, if im in low position with these sort of cards then i am going to be acting first everytime i need to raise bigger pre to avoid making difficult decisions later Decision after the flop was a good raise size But i should of probably Raised pot size again and called a shove. At NL4 theres no way i wouldnt be calling the shove with that board. anything else you guys can think of please dont hesitate to mention it
Posted by sillymunch

i spoke to you on msn about this hand and your asking the right questions rather than can i fold. Which is showing good signs of improvment.

YOUNG_GUN

Raise more pre 32p at least

good bet on flop well done, also turn you have to stack of at this level ul

rancid

In Response to Re: can i fold here xD:

ok so the reason for my huge bet here is because the fact he called my first raise showed me he had a Jack, since he had the top card and he called my original raise i assumed he would have AJ or something like that, when the 2 appears its not a scare card to me, then i was about to do a standard sized raise which was half my stack so if i made the raise i was pot commited and thats the reasoning behind the shove btw if my logic is flawwed then please tell me cus thats the reason im here for xD to try and understand the logic

Posted by sillymunch

 

Your logic is fine, pre with 2 limpers make it 28-36p

Leading the flop this big will either get you action from a J type hand or a fold.

But never get worried about not getting action, bet big for value 100%.

You could go for the c/r on the flop but there’s no need to get fancy, plus it’s a wet flop so you don’t really want to be giving away free cards.

You could just lead ¾ pot or pot, but I like the overbet.

But you got the mistake from your oppo becuae he should fold or shove here but he calls – like the worse thing oppo could do and then get lucky

You turn bet is very good, follows on from the flop and you know he is calling even if he doesn’t hit 2^nd pr.