WOULD YOU HAVE FOLDED PK Ks?

Dazler

WOW, you weren't lying then.....

Dazler

i had this hand in the dtd deepstack tonight and 99.9 % of the time i would snap call but something didnt feel right and i folded, It felt like pk As or a set for some reason and was for my entire stack and torny life and blinds are only 200.

if he had AJ would he have shoved for that much, after my raise pre? would he risk everything on a pair of Js as i could have QQ KK or AA i think you just gotta go with if you think your ahead or behind and make that decision. If i play ABC poker yes i should of made the call but sometimes you gotta go with your gut! i think most of you would say call you gotta think your ahead but i didnt.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tomred64	Small blind		100.00	100.00	15800.00
Dazler	Big blind		200.00	300.00	11223.40
	Your hole cards	K K
jbr2070	Fold
Dudeskin8	Fold
percys13	Fold
everitt09	Call		200.00	500.00	8712.50
tomred64	Call		100.00	600.00	15700.00
Dazler	Raise		600.00	1200.00	10623.40
everitt09	Fold
tomred64	Call		600.00	1800.00	15100.00
Flop
		J 5 2
tomred64	All-in		15100.00	16900.00	0.00
Dazler	Fold
tomred64	Muck
tomred64	Win		1800.00		1800.00
tomred64	Return		15100.00	0.00	16900.00

Dazler

In Response to Re: WOULD YOU HAVE FOLDED PK Ks?:

WOW, you weren't lying then.....
Posted by Dudeskin8

nope lol, im still in and still doing ok if i called and lost cos of a gamble i might be out! dont lay them down like this often mind!

Dazler

actualy i checked out his sharkscope stats which i should have done before and wish i made the call now lol

KKrippler

Ya, def dont think i can fold here, there are times you can fold kings, dont think this is the time, i would be surprised if u were behind.

cleaverjim

There is no flush draw so he isnt pushing with set IMO the best he has is AJ or over pair to board and seeing as you have KK on that board its a SIMPLE SIMPLE call.

cleaverjim

Why would he shove allin withAA? Any one with AA on that board would bet 1/2 or 3/4 pot not 15.000 all in!!!

DOHHHHHHH

Maybe he jammed AJ as a bluff to get u off QQ/KK/AA?

Andyl1986

Reminds me a bit of this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x-GGdHohnI

Dazler

the good news is im on ft with just 3 of us left so worked out good in the end but im now thinking i should have called in that spot.

debdobs_67

I think ya gave him too much credit tbh , vs me ?? yeah fold every time )

TommyD

Firstly, don't try to make sense of his line, it makes none no matter what his holding is.  Sometimes it's best not to try to put a logical thought process down for a player.  People make mistakes, people play badly some times.  If you over estimate people all of the time you will level any hand into the muck.

His range is wide open here, anything from sets to A high.  Call and make a note.

SHANXTA

aint villain a russian roulette specialist?

i snap

mickgil75

he probly had 3 jacks,he had u beat, its a sky special,wake up will ya lol.it happens in all tourneys on ere,i bt kk with 99 earlier cos the guy min raised the kk, i flopped a 9 and got him,suppose u still made final table so wd...

Dudeskin8

This is why you need to call Dazler.

kilo05	Small blind		40.00	40.00	1665.00
Josh13	Big blind		80.00	120.00	10535.00
	Your hole cards	K K
x	Call		80.00	200.00	4065.00
small04	Fold
MrCraig	Fold
Dudeskin8	Raise		320.00	520.00	6505.00
kilo05	Fold
Josh13	Fold
x	Call		240.00	760.00	3825.00
Flop
		3 J 9
x	All-in		3825.00	4585.00	0.00
Dudeskin8	Call		3825.00	8410.00	2680.00
x	Show	Q 8
Dudeskin8	Show	K K
Turn
		6
River
		6
Dudeskin8	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 6s	8410.00		11090.00

debdobs_67

nice call dude mate

Batkin88

In Response to Re: WOULD YOU HAVE FOLDED PK Ks?:

There is no flush draw so he isnt pushing with set IMO the best he has is AJ or over pair to board and seeing as you have KK on that board its a SIMPLE SIMPLE call.
Posted by cleaverjim

It's not simple thats just rude, he clearly states in opening post there is a reason to why he folded and sometimes you have to trust your instincts. In regards to the followng post aswell why would AA def bet half or 2/4 pot ??

In reply to thread, withot overthinking the hand he prob knows your on an overpair to the board or something strong the shove with this player i would call purely as he very LAG prob has top pair any kicker lol and as for tournament life it's fair enough not to get it in if it don't feel right thats how you final table tournaments by making these types of folds

Dazler

In Response to Re: WOULD YOU HAVE FOLDED PK Ks?:

Reminds me a bit of this   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x-GGdHohnI
Posted by Andyl1986

just watched it and interesting comparison you gotta think what on earth would he be raising that much for and is it worth the gamble. Sometimes yes but for torny life considering the pot was only 1200 in my case. He could of been hoping i hit the J or had big pk pair and he may of hit a set of 2s who knows but laydowns like i did keeps you in the torny until you have information about the player before making really big life threatning torny decisions and i went on to come in 2nd place. Also dont forget there are still 2 cards to come and he could still improve then i only have a pair at the end of the day even though a big pair just wish i had a big pair to make the call lol