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did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing)

The_Don90The_Don90
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
joesman1 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1965.00
The_Don90 Big blind  30.00 45.00 2025.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
   
hazzer Fold     
COGB-NPF Raise  80.00 125.00 1425.00
POKERTREV Fold     
DiggerMan Raise  230.00 355.00 2225.00
joesman1 Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  800.00 1155.00 1225.00
COGB-NPF Fold     
DiggerMan Call  600.00 1755.00 1625.00
Flop
  
  • 3
  • 6
  • 5
   
The_Don90 All-in  1225.00 2980.00 0.00
DiggerMan Call  1225.00 4205.00 400.00
The_Don90 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
DiggerMan Show
  • 10
  • 10
   
Turn
  
  • 10
   
River
  
  • A
   
DiggerMan Win Three 10s 4205.00  4605.00
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    I would shove preflop, make it look like AK lol.

    Diggerman is an agro button player, he dont have to have 1010 here but hes also not frightened of calling with a wide range, so shove for value preflop!

    Also, as played, I dont like diggermans flat preflop he should either fold or ship imo

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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited November 2011
    yeah, just shove pre, I doubt anyone ever thinks you are bluffing when you cold 4b small, assumuing this is pretty low stakes . If I was going to 4bet small I prob make it 500-550
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume
    edited November 2011
    i really dont get why you posted this hand

    where do you think you went wrong?
    bog standard suck out
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    i really dont get why you posted this hand where do you think you went wrong? bog standard suck out
    Posted by huuuuume
    the size of his 4 bet is what he is questioning...

    just seems an odd amount in relation to the stacks and situation so i can see why don posted this, its not a bad beat post.
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  • GlenelgGlenelg
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing) : the size of his 4 bet is what he is questioning... just seems an odd amount in relation to the stacks and situation so i can see why don posted this, its not a bad beat post.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    I'm calling Diggermans raise pre (why raise 800?) & checking the flop this early in a tourney.  Info on tourney & reads would also help.
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume
    edited November 2011

    with what you guys have replied with so far is there anyway of playing this hand where you dont get it all in and get sucked out on?

    if you shove pre flop do you want a fold???

    surely this hand has played exactly how you want it to so therefore 4 bet size seems fine to me

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  • GlenelgGlenelg
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    with what you guys have replied with so far is there anyway of playing this hand where you dont get it all in and get sucked out on? if you shove pre flop do you want a fold??? surely this hand has played exactly how you want it to so therefore 4 bet size seems fine to me
    Posted by huuuuume
    What does it achieve? Theres a better chance of getting a fold with shoving pre than there is with a  4 bet of this size surely?
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  • grantorinograntorino
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    with what you guys have replied with so far is there anyway of playing this hand where you dont get it all in and get sucked out on? if you shove pre flop do you want a fold??? surely this hand has played exactly how you want it to so therefore 4 bet size seems fine to me
    Posted by huuuuume
    agree it makes very little if any difference, personally I prefer a shove I think lots of players perceive it as weaker than a small 4bet.

    Glenelg we dont want folds
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing) : the size of his 4 bet is what he is questioning... just seems an odd amount in relation to the stacks and situation so i can see why don posted this, its not a bad beat post.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    as greg says sizing is something i see as a major weakness in my game. I know this comes across as a Bad beat hense title. Greg and me discussed this hand privateley and had some extremely good points, i shouldnt have kept opponents name in, i dont know him well but others do thats why i did again. Greg was therefore able to give me better feedback.

    Also for GT the stakes was £24 sat for SPT Newcastle, id got in for a fiver so not a major damage to roll.
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing) : What does it achieve? Theres a better chance of getting a fold with shoving pre than there is with a  4 bet of this size surely?
    Posted by Glenelg
    why do we want him to fold 10 10 when we have QQ?
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  • penguin7penguin7
    edited November 2011
    Nothing wrong with betsizing...it was all going in anyway
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect
    edited November 2011
    ur always gonna be strong cold 4betting, as gtarino says, either make it smaller or just shove....they know ur never folding now as u put in half ur stack pre!
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited November 2011
    Yh I'd probz shove pre, your raise is basically saying I'm never folding so should be easy snap fold for Digger but you want call and he hit 2 outer, ul.
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  • rancidrancid
    edited November 2011
    Your not 4 bet folding, plus you can't fold any flop so....shove with stack size 

    What hands 5 bet you here that you beat ?

    h8 the flat by oppo, 



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  • jimchree24jimchree24
    edited November 2011
    In Response to did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):you did everything right, like someone said , just a suckout , 99 out of 100 you win hand
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance joesman1 Small blind   15.00 15.00 1965.00 The_Don90 Big blind   30.00 45.00 2025.00   Your hole cards Q Q       hazzer Fold         COGB-NPF Raise   80.00 125.00 1425.00 POKERTREV Fold         DiggerMan Raise   230.00 355.00 2225.00 joesman1 Fold         The_Don90 Raise   800.00 1155.00 1225.00 COGB-NPF Fold         DiggerMan Call   600.00 1755.00 1625.00 Flop     3 6 5       The_Don90 All-in   1225.00 2980.00 0.00 DiggerMan Call   1225.00 4205.00 400.00 The_Don90 Show Q Q       DiggerMan Show 10 10       Turn     10       River     A       DiggerMan Win Three 10s 4205.00   4605.00
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: did i play this right? (BBY wana look at sizing):
    Your not 4 bet folding, plus you can't fold any flop so....shove with stack size  What hands 5 bet you here that you beat ? h8 the flat by oppo, 
    Posted by rancid
    umm dude, raise 3b ten me am i missing action here.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited November 2011
    ignore last post rancid ive not slept.
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