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Cash Table Lobby Sorting

edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
Hi All,

We'd like to get your thoughts on something which we are considering changing, it's how the cash table lobby sorts its tables.

We think this change is logical and better than the existing sorting, but since it's always worked this way we dont want to go ahead without your thoughts!

To explain the current sorting

It default sorts by stakes, ascending, as a primary sort (0.02/£0.04. 0.08/0.16 etc
It then applies a secondary sort of players seated ascending (0, 1 , 2 etc which means tables with empty seats appear at the top of the lobby in that bliknd limit)
Then a slightly randomised tertiary sort of seats at the table (10, 6, 2)
If you sort by stakes descending, then all of the above is then reversed (so empty tables appear at the bottom)

Thats the boring definition out of the way and perhaps a bit confusing, so basically it would sort tables as follows, all are at a given limit, e.g. £0.50/£1.00

(Players seated/Seats available)



0/2
0/6
0/10
1/2
1/6
2/2
3/10
3/6
3/6
5/6
5/10
6/6
6/6
6/6
6/6
8/10
10/10

We are proposing to change this to group tables at each limit with the same number of seats (2,6,10), so above would look like this for £0.50/£1.00

0/2
1/2
2/2
0/6
1/6
3/6
3/6
5/6
6/6
6/6
6/6
6/6
0/10
3/10
5/10
8/10
10/10

Also we'd be interested to know how many of you use the 'Hide Full tables' filter at the bottom of the lobby and also how many of you use the lobby filter pop up (bottom right corner of the lobby) to remove heads up/6 max tables depending on what you want to play?

Apologies for the long post - not particularly easy to explain on  the forum - any feedback welcome as always, maybe you are just happy how it is? or maybe not?

Best Wishes

Sky Poker Team



Comments

  • edited November 2011
    i like the current system all seems in order to rival sites.

    Although what i would like, which you cant get anywhere else and i dont even know if its possible, but id like to be able to remove all tables from view bar the levels i want.

    This would be good to help encourage good BRM.
  • edited November 2011
    I can't say I ever use the filters for the cash tables.

    I do like the look of the new way of sorting the tables. I personally think it would be better.
  • edited November 2011
    of its not broke dont fix it?? i think its fine the way it is.. and as nobody is complaining i think it should stay as it is currently
  • edited November 2011
    It wd be better imo if all partially filled tables appeared at the top in limit order such as this
    2p/4p 1/6
    2p/4p 3/6
    2p/49 5/6
    10p/20p 2/6
    10p/20p 4/6
    25p/50p 5/6
    50p/£1 3/6
    50p/£1 5/6
    2p/4p 0/6
    2p/4p 6/6
    2p/4p 6/6
    2p/4p 6/6
    4p/8p 0/6
    4p/8p 6/6
    5p/10p 0/6
    5p/10p 6/6
    etc.


  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    It wd be better imo if all partially filled tables appeared at the top in limit order such as this 2p/4p 1/6 2p/4p 3/6 2p/49 5/6 10p/20p 2/6 10p/20p 4/6 25p/50p 5/6 50p/£1 3/6 50p/£1 5/6 2p/4p 0/6 2p/4p 6/6 2p/4p 6/6 2p/4p 6/6 4p/8p 0/6 4p/8p 6/6 5p/10p 0/6 5p/10p 6/6 etc.
    Posted by SoLack

    That would drive me daft.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    It wd be better imo if all partially filled tables appeared at the top in limit order such as this 2p/4p 1/6 2p/4p 3/6 2p/49 5/6 10p/20p 2/6 10p/20p 4/6 25p/50p 5/6 50p/£1 3/6 50p/£1 5/6 2p/4p 0/6 2p/4p 6/6 2p/4p 6/6 2p/4p 6/6 4p/8p 0/6 4p/8p 6/6 5p/10p 0/6 5p/10p 6/6 etc.
    Posted by SoLack
    your mind works so better than mine, im confused just trying to understand this.
  • edited November 2011
    I honestly don't mind it as it is.
  • edited November 2011
    Dont like the sound of this, leave it the way it is. 

    If your gunna change something make it so it saves my settings when i filter!!! 
  • edited November 2011
    the new way sounds like it will make it easier to find a suitable table
  • edited November 2011
    think its fine as it is tbh  leave it be thank you :)
  • edited November 2011

    keep it as it is pls

  • edited November 2011
    get auto-top up instead :)
  • edited November 2011
    id rather see something be done about all the half full HU tables that make the lobby look totally ridiculous tbh.

    can something like 1table per stake level per person upto a max of 'x' (4 is a good number) be implemented?

    there can quite often be />40 tables of HU nl200+ like this with people often having many HU tables open despite the fact that they could only probably play 2-4 of them simultaneously.
  • edited November 2011
    Completely agree with LOL_Raise^^^


  • edited November 2011
    I,d leave it apart from the HU Tables that LOL Raise mentioned
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    get auto-top up instead :)
    Posted by splashies


    +1
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    Completely agree with LOL_Raise^^^
    Posted by simuk
    get a room
  • edited November 2011

     im personaly v happy wiyh the way it is  showen now

  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    Dont like the sound of this, leave it the way it is.  If your gunna change something make it so it saves my settings when i filter!!! 
    Posted by CrazyBen23
    +1 Whats the point of the filter if you have to reset it every time. 


  • edited November 2011
    it is fine as it is
  • edited November 2011

    I would say leave same too, as for hu tables you can filter them out.

  • edited November 2011
    can we please just filter by stakes? I want to be able to just see 100nl+ instead of having to scroll through a million tables.
  • edited November 2011
    with the HU tables..atm with no cap on # tables, since ~99% of people are basically bumhunting waiting for a fish to sit it becomes a game of 'who can open the most HU tables and have a larger share of the fish'. obv you dont want anything to change ajs since you are currently the best at this game i think.

    with a capped # of HU tables it not only makes the lobby alot more appealing ..(its pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain whats going on with all these people sitting at HU but not playing against each other) but it also makes it alot fairer for the people sat HU so they dont have to open a billion tables to get a similar sized slice of the pie so to speak
  • edited November 2011
    delete hu pot limit tables and in general they are useless no one plays them at 6max either

    cap table spawning at each level to 6-7(like 100nl atm) so you actually have people competing for spots when site is busy so you don't attract more hu leeches who only play recreational players (it's getting worse and worse if you haven't noticed somehow)

    cap 1 empty table per limit for each player

    maybe then 6max won't be as dead as it is atm

  • edited November 2011
    oh and other than hu cash becoming a major problem i think the lobby is fine as it is
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    with the HU tables..atm with no cap on # tables, since ~99% of people are basically bumhunting waiting for a fish to sit it becomes a game of 'who can open the most HU tables and have a larger share of the fish'. obv you dont want anything to change ajs since you are currently the best at this game i think. with a capped # of HU tables it not only makes the lobby alot more appealing ..(its pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain whats going on with all these people sitting at HU but not playing against each other) but it also makes it alot fairer for the people sat HU so they dont have to open a billion tables to get a similar sized slice of the pie so to speak
    Posted by LOL_RAISE

    In Response to Re: Cash Table Lobby Sorting:
    delete hu pot limit tables and in general they are useless no one plays them at 6max either cap table spawning at each level to 6-7(like 100nl atm) so you actually have people competing for spots when site is busy so you don't attract more hu leeches who only play recreational players (it's getting worse and worse if you haven't noticed somehow) cap 1 empty table per limit for each player maybe then 6max won't be as dead as it is atm
    Posted by zing




    FWIW I had a long 'rant'/'chat'/'friendly discussion' with the Sky guys and much of the hour and a half was spent talking about the HU issue with the horrible disgusting bum hunters and their refusal to play!


    Filters really should save when you set them and being able to filter by a stake would be helpful.

    Hmmmm might have to do another 'suggestions' post now I think about it.
  • edited November 2011
    I would welcome a ruling from sky that you can only have one type of table per level. The vast majority of players adhere to this already. As for numbers of tables they should just keep spawning and anyone who doesnt want to see them just use the filters.

    As for bumhunting, yes everyone you see hu is bum hunting to a certain extent. Some more than others, I think the title of biggest bum hunter is still weareontv lol. But I have no problem with that good luck to him. 99% of 6 max players are bum hunting to a certain extent again some more than others. A 6 max game only gets going when there is a guy there whos spends money. Poker is no different to any other business there needs to be someone spending money or there is no game.

    Book makers are bum hunters. If you show a profit at sports betting they ban or restrict you. Did I read sky did this with gadgerno over rugby betting (might be wrong was a few months ago I read it).

    As for me if i dont think I can make a profit in a game I dont play, would love to play any game but thats the reality of playing for a living.

    Oh and my final point I think more regs would take each other on if the rake wasnt so high. Time and time again I take someone on hu at 100 or 200nl. We play for 20 min or so and we have paid 20 pound in rake between us. If there was no rake (never going to happen i know) there would be very few people I wouldnt play.
  • edited November 2011
    Thanks for all the feedback so far guys, lots of interesting points and counter-points made so far, including some of your issues/concerns with the heads up section of the lobby, this is something which we've been monitoring for a while and is very much on our radar.

    The pro's and con's of the current situation and most of the ideas suggested so far on this thread are already  being debated internally, we definitely wont be rushing into making any changes to such a key part of the poker room.

    Please feel free to keep feeding back on here and debating between yourselves, it's really useful for us to get your opinions and thoughts on something like this and it's an interesting topic.

    Have a great weekend guys

    Kind Regards

    Adam

    P.S. Andrew: that was an interesting discussion at DTD, i'll respond to your pm early next week
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