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DONT SET ME OFF!!

edited November 2011 in Area 51
Im really getting fed up of the number of times people hit there sets! see it time after time after time this was 3 games in a row here, had a total of 7 today against me and always when i got top pair on the flop.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Dazler Small blind   10.00 10.00 1490.00
beaubelle6 Big blind   20.00 30.00 1480.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 8
     
bridoboy Fold        
riches01 Fold        
loxman45 Raise   40.00 70.00 1460.00
irishdevil Call   40.00 110.00 1460.00
Dazler Raise   90.00 200.00 1400.00
beaubelle6 Call   80.00 280.00 1400.00
loxman45 Call   60.00 340.00 1400.00
irishdevil Fold        
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 5
  • 2
     
Dazler Bet   170.00 510.00 1230.00
beaubelle6 Call   170.00 680.00 1230.00
loxman45 All-in   1400.00 2080.00 0.00
Dazler All-in   1230.00 3310.00 0.00
beaubelle6 Fold        
Dazler Show
  • 8
  • 8
     
loxman45 Show
  • 2
  • 2
     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
River
   
  • 5
     
loxman45 Win Full House, 2s and 5s 3310.00   3310.00
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
jaywmac1 Small blind   50.00 50.00 730.00
Dazler Big blind   100.00 150.00 2275.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • J
     
curtilizer Fold        
loulou63 Call   100.00 250.00 3655.00
eastfife27 Call   100.00 350.00 2485.00
QPR21 Fold        
jaywmac1 Call   50.00 400.00 680.00
Dazler Check        
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 7
  • 8
     
jaywmac1 Check        
Dazler Bet   400.00 800.00 1875.00
loulou63 Fold        
eastfife27 Raise   800.00 1600.00 1685.00
jaywmac1 Fold        
Dazler All-in   1875.00 3475.00 0.00
eastfife27 Call   1475.00 4950.00 210.00
Dazler Show
  • 8
  • J
     
eastfife27 Show
  • 7
  • 7
     
Turn
   
  • A
     
River
   
  • 6
     
eastfife27 Win Three 7s 4950.00   5160.00
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
alisha10 Small blind   15.00 15.00 1990.00
Thepob Big blind   30.00 45.00 1520.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
Capnpugwas Fold        
Stutncfc Call   30.00 75.00 1785.00
Dazler Raise   120.00 195.00 1720.00
boothy23 Fold        
alisha10 Fold        
Thepob Fold        
Stutncfc Call   90.00 285.00 1695.00
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 2
  • 3
     
Stutncfc Check        
Dazler Bet   285.00 570.00 1435.00
Stutncfc Call   285.00 855.00 1410.00
Turn
   
  • K
     
Stutncfc Check        
Dazler Check        
River
   
  • 8
     
Stutncfc All-in   1410.00 2265.00 0.00
Dazler Call   1410.00 3675.00 25.00
Stutncfc Show
  • 3
  • 3
     
Dazler Show
  • Q
  • A
     
Stutncfc Win Three 3s 3675.00   3675.00

Comments

  • edited November 2011
    Ive said on another thread already that the hands are NOT i repeat are NOT pre determined , the 'hole cards' are random but then the rng gives out these kinds of flops , turn and river to 'match up' the players hands so as to ensure max action.

    I worked out on the other thread i had played 150k hands in 2+yrs on this site but i was way way out , 500+ hands per day for more than 26 mnths = at least 400k in hands , so ive seen a fair amount of poker and these set up hands are so frequent its scary.
  • edited November 2011
    yea totaly or it goes like this
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Stutncfc Small blind   10.00 10.00 2070.00
    Dazler Big blind   20.00 30.00 1980.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • Q
         
    boothy23 Fold        
    alisha10 Fold        
    Thepob Raise   40.00 70.00 1960.00
    Capnpugwas Call   40.00 110.00 1900.00
    Stutncfc Fold        
    Dazler Raise   60.00 170.00 1920.00
    Thepob Call   40.00 210.00 1920.00
    Capnpugwas Call   40.00 250.00 1860.00
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 6
    • Q
         
    Dazler Bet   250.00 500.00 1670.00
    Thepob Fold        
    Capnpugwas Raise   500.00 1000.00 1360.00
    Dazler Call   250.00 1250.00 1420.00
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    Dazler Check        
    Capnpugwas Check        
    River
       
    • 9
         
    Dazler Check        
    Capnpugwas Check        
    Dazler Show
    • J
    • Q
         
    Capnpugwas Show
    • 9
    • Q
         
    Capnpugwas Win Two Pairs, Queens and 9s 1250.00   2610.00
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    Ive said on another thread already that the hands are NOT i repeat are NOT pre determined , the 'hole cards' are random but then the rng gives out these kinds of flops , turn and river to 'match up' the players hands so as to ensure max action. I worked out on the other thread i had played 150k hands in 2+yrs on this site but i was way way out , 500+ hands per day for more than 26 mnths = at least 400k in hands , so ive seen a fair amount of poker and these set up hands are so frequent its scary.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    if you play daily you see patterns how often do you see short stack with a couple of hundred chips shove then hit st8 or you call a short stack with pk Js or Qs ony for them to show pk Ks or As or the lower kicker hitting against your AK vrs K6 and all timed perfectly when its obv there gonna shove and your gonna call.....coincedance?
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    Ive said on another thread already that the hands are NOT i repeat are NOT pre determined , the 'hole cards' are random but then the rng gives out these kinds of flops , turn and river to 'match up' the players hands so as to ensure max action. I worked out on the other thread i had played 150k hands in 2+yrs on this site but i was way way out , 500+ hands per day for more than 26 mnths = at least 400k in hands , so ive seen a fair amount of poker and these set up hands are so frequent its scary.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    Debs are you running bad recently?

    I noticed towards the end of October you were having a bad run, is it still going?

    If so, do you think your recent negative results are influencing your opinion?
  • edited November 2011
    2 of these hands are easy to get away from

    88 - flop goes bet call...ALL IN...surely this is strength???

    j8 - u pot it and get raised...so many hands beat u here

    granted the final one is harder to get away from

    but betting when oppo has pocket pair pre flop usually goes limp..(u raise) they call.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!! : Debs are you running bad recently? I noticed towards the end of October you were having a bad run, is it still going? If so, do you think your recent negative results are influencing your opinion?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    No dohhh mate , my cash play is goin fine , tournys and sng's are poo poo ;))

    All im sayin mate is i just keep seein the SAME stuff in exactly the SAME spots all of the time.

    Surely variance would suggest i should'nt be seein this amount of coincidence.
  • edited November 2011
    " the 'hole cards' are random but then the rng gives out these kinds of flops , turn and river to 'match up' the players hands so as to ensure max action."


    .......

    But there are literally thousands of hands on sky poker every day where nothing happens after the flop, it's checked down, or first bet wins........
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    2 of these hands are easy to get away from 88 - flop goes bet call...ALL IN...surely this is strength??? j8 - u pot it and get raised...so many hands beat u here granted the final one is harder to get away from but betting when oppo has pocket pair pre flop usually goes limp..(u raise) they call.
    Posted by Bobsicool3
    yea i know i coulda played um better was on tilt a bit, just making the point of how many sets im running into and there hitting game after game and how its always when you have top pair, feels like a set up i tell thee :(
  • edited November 2011
    notice how all are in the bb or sb bar 1
  • edited November 2011
    There is 1 in 7 chance that u hit ur set holding a pocket pair i believe. There have been a few times where i've not got away from sets but also alot of times i have.

    i normally ask in chat box if they had a set and they say yes.

    U need to look at the bet pattern pre flop. most ppl will limp, then call hoping to set mine. if they all of a sudden start being aggressive then they have a good hand.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    "  the 'hole cards' are random but then the rng gives out these kinds of flops , turn and river to 'match up' the players hands so as to ensure max action." ....... But   th er e ar e lit erally thousands of hands on sky pok er  ev ery day wh er e nothing happ ens aft er th e flop, it's ch eck ed down, or first b et wins........
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yeah i take ure point mate as in cash games i agree nowt happens quite alot of the time , its the mtt's and sng's at very very crucial times that the frequent set ups occur.

    Now i aint sayin it happpens to me all the time , as it happens in my favour as well , even if i aint in the pot i still see the same scenarios at these very crucial times , i mean if a player wants to stack off with Q9os then thats their prob , its just when ya see mr.big stack do this and oppo shows AK , AA or KK its just so scary when they keep on outdrawing the shorter stack.
  • edited November 2011
    Really dont like how you play 3 out of 4 of these (all but the AQ).

    Lead with J8 is optimistic and the other two popping it pre is pointless.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!! : Yeah i take ure point mate as in cash games i agree nowt happens quite alot of the time , its the mtt's and sng's at very very crucial times that the frequent set ups occur. Now i aint sayin it happpens to me all the time , as it happens in my favour as well , even if i aint in the pot i still see the same scenarios at these very crucial times , i mean if a player wants to stack off with Q9os then thats their prob , its just when ya see mr.big stack do this and oppo shows AK , AA or KK its just so scary when they keep on outdrawing the shorter stack.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    You will see it alot, there's loads of scenarios in MTT's and SNG's where calling off with 'bad' hands is correct....

    Its also 1 of the main reasons why aggressive players are the best players, I mean if you got an agro dynamic going on with another good player, and you 5bet shove with A4s, and he somehow has Kings, you've got solid equity to win the pot. Add to that all the times the agro opponent folds to your 5 bet, and you're showing a good profit on the play.......

    Calling off, of course is v different, but equity is still powerful. 

    Thankfully, for agro spewfish such as myself, 35% is alot!!!

    Memba that ;)
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    Really dont like how you play 3 out of 4 of these (all but the AQ). Lead with J8 is optimistic and the other two popping it pre is pointless.
    Posted by AMYBR
    one thing you have to bear in mind is this was dym games and against a short stack hes gonna shove with air. rather it be me doing the shoving with top pair to knock him out or make him fold so hes even shorter, rather be betting it than calling it he only had a few bb left and i was in the bb so he would of tried to steal as was the nature of the games i was playing this night, if it were a normal sit n go or mtt i would of played it differntly. Also after seeing so many sets in a row was on tilt quite a bit so did effect my play a bit and 4 tabling along with early hours in the morning. But still was crazy the number of sets each game in consecesion, i did play more games as was playing 4 tables at a time but still its when its one after the other for sets that just make it seem very odd.
  • edited November 2011
    first game of the day i have top pair on a low board with outs for st8 and flush and they have pk Ks then short stacked with KQ hearts against pk 10s, 2 hearts on the flop then guess what comes on river another 10 for there GOD DAM SET YET AGAIN im seing far too many of these its really anoying me now.
  • edited November 2011
    Tell me about it bud.  I'm in a real weird state.  Mainly why I've come back to post.  Its easier to look objectively at others hand and see the optimum lines, and maybe have it reinforce my own play.  Just getting coolered cold decked and binked upon, which in turn is effecting my play and out look.

    As far as the J8 hand, all I meant was leading into 3 others in a limped pot with a very marginal hand is always going to be risky.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    Tell me about it bud.  I'm in a real weird state.  Mainly why I've come back to post.  Its easier to look objectively at others hand and see the optimum lines, and maybe have it reinforce my own play.  Just getting coolered cold decked and binked upon, which in turn is effecting my play and out look. As far as the J8 hand, all I meant was leading into 3 others in a limped pot with a very marginal hand is always going to be risky.
    Posted by AMYBR
    yea true but just wanted hu with shortie really. Just accidently played a 5.50 omaha dym and i havnt a clue what im doing in those really but managed to win lol, Sit n goes its just going horribly wrong maybe i should stick to omaha lol
  • edited November 2011
    Your never far behind in Omaha :p
  • edited November 2011
    cant even slow play a massive hand hu without somebody binking a fh, and i know i should fold here but its just rediculous even if i shoved the turn hes calling prob and id still lose then i have AK after he has A8 and hits trip 8s and im out. next hand is in deepy torny AK into AA against short stack the list goes on
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Dazler Small blind   25.00 25.00 5815.00
    freddie901 Big blind   50.00 75.00 3110.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 6
         
    Dazler Raise   125.00 200.00 5690.00
    freddie901 Raise   200.00 400.00 2910.00
    Dazler Call   100.00 500.00 5590.00
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 6
    • 2
         
    freddie901 Bet   250.00 750.00 2660.00
    Dazler Call   250.00 1000.00 5340.00
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    freddie901 Bet   500.00 1500.00 2160.00
    Dazler Call   500.00 2000.00 4840.00
    River
       
    • K
         
    freddie901 All-in   2160.00 4160.00 0.00
    Dazler Call   2160.00 6320.00 2680.00
    Dazler Show
    • A
    • 6
         
    freddie901 Show
    • A
    • K
         
    freddie901 Win Full House, Kings and 6s 6320.00   6320.00
  • edited November 2011
    Gross.  Maybe another black weekend is coming and we are seeing some maximising :p

    Same stuff I'm seeing.  Havent won from in front, havent won a race havent binked from behind in weeks.  Everytime my stack mandates a jam, blinds have me crushed.

    Its no fun :p
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    Gross.  Maybe another black weekend is coming and we are seeing some maximising :p Same stuff I'm seeing.  Havent won from in front, havent won a race havent binked from behind in weeks.  Everytime my stack mandates a jam, blinds have me crushed. Its no fun :p
    Posted by AMYBR
    one consolation is its not just me then :) we all get bad days i suppose, and the sky bad beat hitman sniper rifle isnt just aimed at my forehead lol
  • edited November 2011
    just went out of the dtd deepy and guess what folks thats right they hit a set. My AK ran into AA my KK lost to AJ and short stack lost to a set funny how varience is aint it!
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    cant even slow play a massive hand hu without somebody binking a fh, and i know i should fold here but its just rediculous even if i shoved the turn hes calling prob and id still lose then i have AK after he has A8 and hits trip 8s and im out. next hand is in deepy torny AK into AA against short stack the list goes on Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Dazler Small blind   25.00 25.00 5815.00 freddie901 Big blind   50.00 75.00 3110.00   Your hole cards A 6       Dazler Raise   125.00 200.00 5690.00 freddie901 Raise   200.00 400.00 2910.00 Dazler Call   100.00 500.00 5590.00 Flop     6 6 2       freddie901 Bet   250.00 750.00 2660.00 Dazler Call   250.00 1000.00 5340.00 Turn     K       freddie901 Bet   500.00 1500.00 2160.00 Dazler Call   500.00 2000.00 4840.00 River     K       freddie901 All-in   2160.00 4160.00 0.00 Dazler Call   2160.00 6320.00 2680.00 Dazler Show A 6       freddie901 Show A K       freddie901 Win Full House, Kings and 6s 6320.00   6320.00
    Posted by Dazler

    I bet u'd rather he folded the flop, right? ;)

  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!!:
    In Response to Re: DONT SET ME OFF!! : I bet u'd rather he folded the flop, right? ;)
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol if i wanted that i wouldnt of slow played would i ;)
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