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a few hands from primo

edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic

Qualified for last nights primo for £2. This is one tournament ive always felt ive under performed in however last night i felt like i actually played well. However decided to post some hands up.

1) this one obviously in the BB 2nd hand of the tournament so pretty readless aswell. my main worry here is the turn was bebateing the c/c or c.r. again on the river i feel ive missed value here can i lead river as played?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
robyoung Small blind  10.00 10.00 1970.00
The_Don90 Big blind  20.00 30.00 1980.00
 Your hole cards
  • 3
  • 9
   
winner5603 Fold     
scotty77 Fold     
blueyepete Fold     
godqaz Call  20.00 50.00 2000.00
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Check     
Flop
  
  • 3
  • 9
  • 4
   
The_Don90 Bet  40.00 90.00 1940.00
godqaz Raise  80.00 170.00 1920.00
The_Don90 Call  40.00 210.00 1900.00
Turn
  
  • 7
   
The_Don90 Check     
godqaz Bet  260.00 470.00 1660.00
The_Don90 Call  260.00 730.00 1640.00
River
  
  • Q
   
The_Don90 Check     
godqaz Check
2) im actually not sure what to make of this hand, i put him on a weaker 10 or a draw. but surle both have to call so not sure. Also the flop im not sure on.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
winner5603 Small blind  15.00 15.00 2030.00
scotty77 Big blind  30.00 45.00 2120.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • 10
   
blueyepete Fold     
godqaz Call  30.00 75.00 1705.00
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  90.00 165.00 2305.00
winner5603 Fold     
scotty77 Fold     
godqaz Call  60.00 225.00 1645.00
Flop
  
  • 9
  • 10
  • Q
   
godqaz Bet  120.00 345.00 1525.00
The_Don90 Raise  330.00 675.00 1975.00
godqaz Call  210.00 885.00 1315.00
Turn
  
  • 5
   
godqaz Bet  885.00 1770.00 430.00
The_Don90 All-in  1975.00 3745.00 0.00
godqaz Fold     
The_Don90 Muck     
The_Don90 Win  2655.00  2655.00
The_Don90 Return  1090.00 0.00 3745.00
3) Ok little history to this hand too. Ive been opening lots of buttons, and i know that Scotty in BB isnt going to let me take his blinds for ever. However woth the 3b and a caller whats your opinions on pre. Secondly the flop should i be beting here when in my head i was set mining, and the turn is an ok bet? river i feel i have showdown value so im happy with my check on this board.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
winner5603 Small blind  20.00 20.00 2020.00
scotty77 Big blind  40.00 60.00 1945.00
 Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 8
   
blueyepete Call  40.00 100.00 1715.00
Jonsey74 Fold     
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  120.00 220.00 3565.00
winner5603 Fold     
scotty77 Raise  240.00 460.00 1705.00
blueyepete Call  240.00 700.00 1475.00
The_Don90 Call  160.00 860.00 3405.00
Flop
  
  • 3
  • 5
  • 6
   
scotty77 Check     
blueyepete Check     
The_Don90 Check     
Turn
  
  • K
   
scotty77 Check     
blueyepete Check     
The_Don90 Bet  430.00 1290.00 2975.00
scotty77 Fold     
blueyepete Call  430.00 1720.00 1045.00
River
  
  • 7
   
blueyepete Check     
The_Don90 Check     
blueyepete Show
  • 2
  • A
   
The_Don90 Show
  • 8
  • 8
   
The_Don90 Win Pair of 8s 1720.00  4695.00
4) this hand looks pretty standard however im not sure double barrelling is something ive ever been that good at so i thought id post this hand for a little feedback.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  30.00 30.00 4910.00
winner5603 Big blind  60.00 90.00 2707.50
 Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 9
   
scotty77 Fold     
dylan07 Fold     
Jonsey74 Fold     
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  150.00 240.00 4760.00
winner5603 Call  120.00 360.00 2587.50
Flop
  
  • 8
  • 2
  • 2
   
The_Don90 Bet  180.00 540.00 4580.00
winner5603 Call  180.00 720.00 2407.50
Turn
  
  • K
   
The_Don90 Bet  360.00 1080.00 4220.00
winner5603 Fold     
The_Don90 Muck     
The_Don90 Win  720.00  4940.00
The_Don90 Return  360.00 0.00 5300.00
5) again looking at pre and on the flop. My problem was pre if i 3 bet im only getting 4 bet by better with 3 oppos behind. Im not sure this was the correct attitude to take. Then looking at my flop play, i think thats ok, but am i playing my hand face up at this point?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
scotty77 Small blind  40.00 40.00 1540.00
dylan07 Big blind  80.00 120.00 7577.50
 Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 10
   
OJAY-273 Raise  400.00 520.00 1872.50
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Call  400.00 920.00 3987.50
winner5603 Fold     
scotty77 Fold     
dylan07 Fold     
Flop
  
  • 3
  • 3
  • 2
   
OJAY-273 Bet  690.00 1610.00 1182.50
The_Don90 Raise  2415.00 4025.00 1572.50
OJAY-273 Fold     
The_Don90 Muck     
The_Don90 Win  2300.00  3872.50
The_Don90 Return  1725.00 0.00 5597.50
6) not pleased with how i played this all round.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
robyoung Small blind  75.00 75.00 3648.75
The_Don90 Big blind  150.00 225.00 6072.50
 Your hole cards
  • J
  • Q
   
winner5603 Fold     
scotty77 Fold     
MADPATDOTC Raise  300.00 525.00 10237.50
OJAY-273 Call  300.00 825.00 3440.00
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 Call  150.00 975.00 5922.50
Flop
  
  • 10
  • 9
  • 7
   
The_Don90 Check     
MADPATDOTC Bet  487.50 1462.50 9750.00
OJAY-273 Fold     
The_Don90 Call  487.50 1950.00 5435.00
Turn
  
  • 9
   
The_Don90 Check     
MADPATDOTC Bet  975.00 2925.00 8775.00
The_Don90 Call  975.00 3900.00 4460.00
River
  
  • 8
   
The_Don90 Check     
MADPATDOTC Check     
The_Don90 Show
  • J
  • Q
   
MADPATDOTC Muck
  • 4
  • A
   
The_Don90 Win Straight to the Queen 3900.00  8360.00
7) hand that killed me really. standard?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
robyoung Small blind  100.00 100.00 1898.75
The_Don90 Big blind  200.00 300.00 9538.75
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
   
scotty77 Fold     
MADPATDOTC Fold     
OJAY-273 Raise  800.00 1100.00 2640.00
robyoung Fold     
The_Don90 All-in  9538.75 10638.75 0.00
OJAY-273 All-in  2640.00 13278.75 0.00
The_Don90 Unmatched bet  6298.75 6980.00 6298.75
The_Don90 Show
  • A
  • K
   
OJAY-273 Show
  • 8
  • A
   
Flop
  
  • 7
  • 6
  • 8
   
Turn
  
  • 8
   
River
  
  • 10
   
OJAY-273 Win Three 8s 6980.00  6980.00
8) another button open and scotty fightback. standard with stacks?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
gazshep Small blind  125.00 125.00 5136.25
scotty77 Big blind  250.00 375.00 1880.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • 6
   
MADPATDOTC Fold     
OJAY-273 Fold     
budgirl Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  666.00 1041.00 5502.75
gazshep Fold     
scotty77 All-in  1880.00 2921.00 0.00
The_Don90 Call  1464.00 4385.00 4038.75
scotty77 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
The_Don90 Show
  • A
  • 6
   
Flop
  
  • 7
  • 3
  • 3
   
Turn
  
  • 5
   
River
  
  • J
   
scotty77 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 3s 4385.00  4385.00
9) after too strong recoverys (one being a bad beat on scotty and the other being for 300 chips just one circle before this hand) anyways at this point 43 left. 30 cash and a min cash doubles my BR. Is this a stnadard play in those circumstances? (i know this is a cooler. But with just 13 players to go am i ok to go for a min cash is what im asking)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  250.00 250.00 4326.00
topoff2 Big blind  500.00 750.00 3271.50
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
   
bar4004 Call  500.00 1250.00 17292.75
OJAY-273 Fold     
budgirl Raise  1500.00 2750.00 15525.00
The_Don90 All-in  4326.00 7076.00 0.00
topoff2 All-in  3271.50 10347.50 0.00
bar4004 Fold     
budgirl Call  3076.00 13423.50 12449.00
The_Don90 Show
  • Q
  • A
   
topoff2 Show
  • K
  • A
   
budgirl Show
  • K
  • K
   
Flop
  
  • 10
  • 10
  • 7
   
Turn
  
  • 10
   
River
  
  • 4
   
budgirl Win Full House, 10s and Kings 13423.50  25872.50


Sorry i know its a lot of hands to reply to but id apprachiate good responces as i felt i played pretty mixed yesterday, first time ive really had that extra gear in this tournament and i still feel i made mistakes.  

Comments

  • edited November 2011
    1. As played can't see why you'd lead river after c/c on turn wouldn't really make sense.

    2. I raise more pre, flop I just call not sure what raise achieves you have a hand so don't need to bluff not sure you can raise for value here, turn looks like pretty easy fold you only have 2nd pair and have zero fold equity, utterly astonished he folded here.

    3. Call pre ok, flop check not sure I probz bet here after checks, turn I wouldn't bet I'd just check behind, river after turn call good check.

    4. Turn is good card if you're gonna bet twice so looks fine for me.

    5. Maybe just call flop and call all turns that aren't an Ace or King keeps in his bluffs.

    6. Maybe c/r flop but depends if happy getting it in on draw 40bb deep, as played I probz lead river just in case he checks.

    7. nh

    8. Yh he has 7.5 bb can't really raise fold against his stack.

    9. Cooler, sick when you have no outs lol
  • edited November 2011
    Hand 1

    I'd c/r turn and stack off obv.....

    I don't see what he could have that beats us, pocket 4's only really, & we got outs. 

    Hand 2

    I think is played poorly throughout, but u haven't given any reads or explained why u did what you did so impossible to comment really.

    4 - good

    5 - flat flop, call all turns. 


  • edited November 2011
    ^^^^ Can you see how I lost enthusiasm during that post when I realised how many hands there were! ;););)
  • edited November 2011
    1) Why only bet call flop? once you c/c turn why not lead river? Why not raise turn with so many draws out?

    2) Why are you raising the flop? the turn is kinda meh once you've raised the flop.

    3)Once scotty checks twice we deffo have the best hand so turn bet for protection is fine, river is a bit ghay and you could consider bluffing, depends what you think of your opponent.

    4) 79s betting the K is mandatory give up if called.

    5) Why flat the TT pre if we're willing to stack off on a 332 board?

    6) Once you c/c twice why would you check the 8 river when it brings 4 to a straight and you are oop. your opponent is hardly likely to bet again with that board run out.

    7) nothing to talk about

    8) if you open you cant be folding to scotty because he has 7 bigs and is a fishstick. fold to a sb jam for 20bets.

    9) hit AQx when you go allin with AQ vs AK and KK. that's all skill.
  • edited November 2011
    ty for responces again appoligies for so many hands didnt think i had as many i wasnt sure of when i started this thread.

    also ty beaneh for responce inparticualar to hand 3. Playing scotty really did had something a little different to this game i felt apart from winner who i had a solid read on earty the rest of the table was quite weak early on. Later on the dynamics changed a little.
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