SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE - LOW DEPOSIT / RECREATIONAL PLAYERS READ ON!!

BANDICOOT

OK SO NO ONE WANTS TO FEEL THEY ARE INFERIOR, BUT LETS FACE IT WE CANT ALL BE THE NEXT WSOP SUPERSTAR, THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS ON SKY WHO'S DEPOSIT RATE PER ANUM IS LESS THAN THE BIG HITTERS PLAY PER WEEK, SO HOW A BOUT A SYSTEM SIMILAR TO POKERSTARS WHERE YOU ARE GRADED IN STAR RANKING TO DISTINGUISH YOUR PLAYER LEVEL. THIS COULD BE DONE BY SPLITTING THE CURRENT LEAGUE INTO THREE DIVISIONS WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT ALL PLAYERS WOULD GET A SHOT AT A DIVISION  TOURNAMENT AT THE END OF EACH WEEK / MONTH. AND MIGHT ENCOURAGE A FAIRER GAME, WHILST ALLOWING PLAYERS TO DEVELOP WITHOUT THE USUAL BASHING BY THE MORE EXPERIENCED PLAYERS , THE OPEN IS JUST THAT OPEN TO ALL BUT DIVISIONAL LEAGUES WITH THIER OWN PROMOTION / DEMOTION DEPENDING ON RESULT COULD BE A GOOD THING

mike1975

I have to say, i love this idea.

My bankroll means i will never even take an interest in the league let alone do any good in it.

it would be nice to have something else to aim for.

I hope this gets looked into by sky.

Good post Bandicoot.

BANDICOOT

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I have to say, i love this idea. My bankroll means i will never even take an interest in the league let alone do any good in it. it would be nice to have something else to aim for. I hope this gets looked into by sky. Good post Bandicoot.
Posted by mike1975

thanks for taking the trouble to post in favour Mike, nice to see somone has read my post who actually agrees.

Grimstar30

Great Idea

BANDICOOT

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Great Idea
Posted by Grimstar30

hi grimstar, thanks for posting a reply in agreement.

Tikay10

I like this idea, too.

For too long, those who play at smaller (affordable) Levels, throughout poker, though more in Live play than Online, are discriminated against, everything is geared for the "Big Boys". To be fair to Sky Poker, they do concentrate very much on the lower limit recreational players, which gives me much satisfaction.

We should all be able to have our moment in the sun, no matter what Level we play at.

I will add my shoulder to the wheel, & let the Suits know about this great idea.

unknown_username

Great idea Bandicoot!

EDKENT123

i actually spoke to the marketing team a few months back with something very similar, but still no reply, i would'nt hold ur breath

BANDICOOT

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i actually spoke to the marketing team a few months back with something very similar, but still no reply, i would'nt hold ur breath
Posted by EDKENT123

thanks for the post EDkent123, At least it shows there area few like minded players here with similar views

BANDICOOT

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I like this idea, too. For too long, those who play at smaller (affordable) Levels, throughout poker, though more in Live play than Online, are discriminated against, everything is geared for the "Big Boys". To be fair to Sky Poker, they do concentrate very much on the lower limit recreational players, which gives me much satisfaction. We should all be able to have our moment in the sun, no matter what Level we play at. I will add my shoulder to the wheel, & let the Suits know about this great idea.
Posted by Tikay10

thanks for the post Tikay, nice to see a SKY POKER point of view on this subject, it would be good to see a league that can cater for all players, as you are aware the present  system rewards the players who deposit the most, the same goes for the latest deposit rake back most of us dont even get near a 1000 points a month let alone go over, so having a small league option that will give the recreational players or small depositors a chance for some return would be great. the top prizes could even be given as entry to 500 or primo style tourneys that most of us would not be able to get a shot at due to buy in stakes, and the free ticket would relieve the pressure of the scared dollar buy in

 

DiggerMan

Hi, I like this idea too. Even though Sky does a lot for the "little leaguers" it's always the same people who are in the League Final and nobody else seems to get a look in! To have any chance in the league you have to play a huge amount and/or have a big bank roll. Most players either don't have the bank roll or simply don't have the time to get anywhere near. I play maybe three or four nights a week and don't have much of a bank roll.
Just a suggestion, maybe there could be a "tournament winners game" where if you win selected tournamants covering a range of buy-ins, including some free rolls, you gain entry into a final similar to the League Final. It gives everybody a chance of "stardom" then, not just the chosen few. Even better would be if the entry games were randomly selected and you didn't know that it was an entry tournament until it actually started! Just a thought....!

_The_Boat_

Ive got to say this is a brilliant idea i am a new player i think i could give the leagues a good battle but havent got the bankroll to challenge the bigger players like gerrard9 and anjie1970 etc etc.
If we could have these lower league tourneys like every week then do a big one at the end of the month with like the top5 from each category going into the mixed one then we could really see how we play against the bigboys.

BANDICOOT

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Hi, I like this idea too. Even though Sky does a lot for the "little leaguers" it's always the same people who are in the League Final and nobody else seems to get a look in! To have any chance in the league you have to play a huge amount and/or have a big bank roll. Most players either don't have the bank roll or simply don't have the time to get anywhere near. I play maybe three or four nights a week and don't have much of a bank roll. Just a suggestion, maybe there could be a "tournament winners game" where if you win selected tournamants covering a range of buy-ins, including some free rolls, you gain entry into a final similar to the League Final. It gives everybody a chance of "stardom" then, not just the chosen few. Even better would be if the entry games were randomly selected and you didn't know that it was an entry tournament until it actually started! Just a thought....!
Posted by DiggerMan

Thanks Diggerman, some great suggestions in your post, hope someone reads these !

BANDICOOT

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Ive got to say this is a brilliant idea i am a new player i think i could give the leagues a good battle but havent got the bankroll to challenge the bigger players like gerrard9 and anjie1970 etc etc. If we could have these lower league tourneys like every week then do a big one at the end of the month with like the top5 from each category going into the mixed one then we could really see how we play against the bigboys.
Posted by _The_Boat_

Hi Boat, thanks for the post, you are right in your views here, the players who deposit more or can buy in at the highest levels get all the rewards - the more you pay the more points you get back.

F-B-I

 I TOTALLY AGREE ,   PERHAPS THE TOP TEN OF THE LOWER LEAGUES COULD BE GIVEN ENTRY INTO THE  SAT OR SUN OPEN, AS A REWARD, WHICH IF THEY DID WELL COULD THEN GIVE THEM THE BANKROLL TO MOVE UP A NOTCH OR TWO  WHICH WOULD THEN FEED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM ? JUST AN IDEA

F-B-I

  I ALSO THINK THAT THE POINTS AWARDED TO THE SMALLER GAMES , IS FAR LESS THAN THE THE BIG MONEY GAMES MAKING IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO MOVE UP THE LEAGUE, IE IE THREE  50P GAME WINS IS ABOUT THE SAME POINT VALUE AS A £5 OR £10 GAME WIN, PERHAPS THE POINTS PER WIN SHOULD BE THE SAME NO MATTER THE COST OF ENTRY..

FBS

Great idea.... playing at low levels ( less than £5 buy in ) I'm never going to get many points but having leagues at differant buy in levels would be fantastic

stuc76

totally agree with you maybe sky poker will take notice we are in a credit crunch not everybody can spend mega bucks

Tikay10

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In Response to Re: SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE : thanks for the post Tikay, nice to see a SKY POKER point of view on this subject, it would be good to see a league that can cater for all players, as you are aware the present  system rewards the players who deposit the most, the same goes for the latest deposit rake back most of us dont even get near a 1000 points a month let alone go over, so having a small league option that will give the recreational players or small depositors a chance for some return would be great. the top prizes could even be given as entry to 500 or primo style tourneys that most of us would not be able to get a shot at due to buy in stakes, and the free ticket would relieve the pressure of the scared dollar buy in  
Posted by BANDICOOT

Thanks BANDI,

I must stress, all my comments on here are my personal views, & I am not a spokesman for Sky Poker. I have the same voice as everyone else, but I do know many of the Suits well, & so I will ensure they know our views - "People's Poker" is very important.

The idea, I think, is that they - Sky Poker - try to serve all of their Players, small big or medium. 

In another life, I'm Chairman of APAT, which also serves the smaller buy-iin market, & it's something I'm passionate about. Market forces will always rule, but the "regular guys" in Poker will always have my support.

To be fair, I do think Sky Poker serves the regular guys better than any other Site.

harvey22

Great idea Bandicoot, especially in this recession there are so many of us to just can't afford to stake the amounts like the big boys.
Tikay if sky did an online survey I'm sure majority of the poker forum would like to see something like this - in fact I'm sure it would gain extra commitment from all users accross the board to log on more often to improve league position.

BANDICOOT

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  I ALSO THINK THAT THE POINTS AWARDED TO THE SMALLER GAMES , IS FAR LESS THAN THE THE BIG MONEY GAMES MAKING IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO MOVE UP THE LEAGUE, IE IE THREE  50P GAME WINS IS ABOUT THE SAME POINT VALUE AS A £5 OR £10 GAME WIN, PERHAPS THE POINTS PER WIN SHOULD BE THE SAME NO MATTER THE COST OF ENTRY..
Posted by F-B-I

Hi F.B.I thanks for your post, and for all your good points raised, like this idea a lot.

BANDICOOT

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Great idea.... playing at low levels ( less than £5 buy in ) I'm never going to get many points but having leagues at differant buy in levels would be fantastic
Posted by FBS

Hi FBS  thanks for the post totaly agree ! , so many of us are in the same boat, playing at sub £5 buy ins

BANDICOOT

In Response to Re: SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE:

In Response to Re: SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE : Thanks BANDI, I must stress, all my comments on here are my personal views, & I am not a spokesman for Sky Poker. I have the same voice as everyone else, but I do know many of the Suits well, & so I will ensure they know our views - "People's Poker" is very important. The idea, I think, is that they - Sky Poker - try to serve all of their Players, small big or medium.  In another life, I'm Chairman of APAT, which also serves the smaller buy-iin market, & it's something I'm passionate about. Market forces will always rule, but the "regular guys" in Poker will always have my support. To be fair, I do think Sky Poker serves the regular guys better than any other Site.
Posted by Tikay10

Hi Tikay, Please dont get me wrong on this matter, totaly love playing on SKYPOKER and have been here for nearly two years now, and yes if im sharkscoped my ROI graph looks like an advert for a grand slalom on ski sunday.However im trying to improve my game and a little  insentive  i.e lower stake rewards would be great.
Thanks again for your support. P.S - Thanks for the great running blog on the vegas lite which enabled us all to rail from home, many congratts to DAN on his brill performance , good luck to those in the main event and commiserations to HAYSIE but respect for him in getting there

BANDICOOT

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Great idea Bandicoot, especially in this recession there are so many of us to just can't afford to stake the amounts like the big boys. Tikay if sky did an online survey I'm sure majority of the poker forum would like to see something like this - in fact I'm sure it would gain extra commitment from all users accross the board to log on more often to improve league position.
Posted by harvey22

HI Harvey 22 thanks for your post and your support

tiggerace7

Hi Everyone,

My thought on the league are a little confused for this reason:-

If you are playing in a £10 Freezeout which often have only one to four players in them the points system is mad.

My example would be this:-

3 players buy in equal £30

Tourny only pays out the winner of £30

Winner gets 30 points
2nd     gets 26 points
3rd      gets 18 points


I think i have that correct.  

This to me means that league points are not totally reflextive of a players ability.

I would certainly respect TiKay's view on the above.


Tiggerace7
  

Nikos5-2

bring on the new divisions iv not long started taking my poker seriously but find it hard to build up a bankroll...so playing in a division with people of a similar calibre would let you not only realize what level you are currently playing at, but will help you avoid a tonking from the online nosebleeders x

offshoot

The league is not a measure of skill but just how much you rake. They should just either award the prizes to play only below 0.25/.50 or increase the prize pool to encourage more competitiveness. i doubt anyone playing above .5/1 really cares about the league, yet they are the people winning it every month.

scotty77

That is a good point Offshoot.

When I played lower/recreationally, and if I had qualified for the leage £500 weekly FR, I would always participate.

Now I am a more volume player it really isn't worth the time when the top prize is 1 BI at 100nl.

I think you should scrap the £500 weekly FR and put this prize money towards this new little league system, although I have no idea how it would be implemented as you can't just tell Sky Poker players not to go above 20nl or whatever.

dirtycid20

In Response to SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE - LOW DEPOSIT / RECREATIONAL PLAYERS READ ON!!:

OK SO NO ONE WANTS TO FEEL THEY ARE INFERIOR, BUT LETS FACE IT WE CANT ALL BE THE NEXT WSOP SUPERSTAR, THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS ON SKY WHO'S DEPOSIT RATE PER ANUM IS LESS THAN THE BIG HITTERS PLAY PER WEEK, SO HOW A BOUT A SYSTEM SIMILAR TO POKERSTARS WHERE YOU ARE GRADED IN STAR RANKING TO DISTINGUISH YOUR PLAYER LEVEL. THIS COULD BE DONE BY SPLITTING THE CURRENT LEAGUE INTO THREE DIVISIONS WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT ALL PLAYERS WOULD GET A SHOT AT A DIVISION  TOURNAMENT AT THE END OF EACH WEEK / MONTH. AND MIGHT ENCOURAGE A FAIRER GAME, WHILST ALLOWING PLAYERS TO DEVELOP WITHOUT THE USUAL BASHING BY THE MORE EXPERIENCED PLAYERS , THE OPEN IS JUST THAT OPEN TO ALL BUT DIVISIONAL LEAGUES WITH THIER OWN PROMOTION / DEMOTION DEPENDING ON RESULT COULD BE A GOOD THING
Posted by BANDICOOT

great idea, instead of the top 150 in the league maybe one should be done for the bottom 150etc and maybe something like a weekly draw people could enter and the top 10 get a go at the big boys in the primo, open etc. The only way to improve your poker is to play with people on a higher level but most don't have the bankroll for this.

BANDICOOT

just like to say thanks to all the like minded people who have been posting on this thread to show their support, if you have read these you will see that TIKAY has given his support to the idea, lets hope that SKYPOKER can implement something along the suggested lines - thanks

scrumdown

very  good  idea bandicoot   give  the  players  with  not  has high  bankrolls  to  play     may  be they could  have  a  top   middle  and   low  structure