Late stages of tourney, right shove or not?

iBLUFF

JJ (Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) said he wouldnt shove here i thought it was ok, so what do you think of this shove?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
THETANK	Small blind		150.00	150.00	3405.00
shooter73	Big blind		300.00	450.00	13092.00
	Your hole cards	J 10
willie	Call		300.00	750.00	10845.00
tinytellah	All-in		720.00	1470.00	0.00
iBLUFF	All-in		4460.00	5930.00	0.00
THETANK	Fold
shooter73	Call		4160.00	10090.00	8932.00
willie	Fold
shooter73	Show	A 10
tinytellah	Show	Q A
iBLUFF	Show	J 10
Flop
		4 7 Q
Turn
		9
River
		A
tinytellah	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Queens	2610.00		2610.00
shooter73	Win	Pair of Aces	7480.00		16412.00

IDONKCALLU

hate it tbh with u i wouldnt even call the 720 it looks like your turning your hand into a bluff so when u go all in your isolating to get heads up with the guy who is all in with 720 chips y the urge to win a extra 720 plus blinds your more then likely behind when guy goes all in 720 chips well u are he he had a q just hate it y not fold and pick a better spot not having a go i bluff just think theres better spots to put your tournement life on the line

iBLUFF

In Response to Re: Late stages of tourney, right shove or not?:

hate it tbh with u i wouldnt even call the 720 it looks like your turning your hand into a bluff so when u go all in your isolating to get heads up with the guy who is all in with 720 chips y the urge to win a extra 720 plus blinds your more then likely behind when guy goes all in 720 chips well u are he he had a q just hate it y not fold and pick a better spot not having a go i bluff just think theres better spots to put your tournement life on the line
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Oh sorry, forgot to add its a bh...

The_Don90

in a bh i think you can argue either way tbh. More money for winning, i fold wait for better

IDONKCALLU

as its a bh i would just call the 720 i would never go all in ibluff u are only getting called by a better hand 

AMYBR

snap fold pre for lots of reasons.

rancid

I don't like it

Not liking the call behind either )

BH special hand

grantorino

prob fold, esp with limper in front unless you think its very likely you get to isolate shorty

iBLUFF

Here is my thinking, thetank is never calling with less than premium here even with 10bigs,  sb is also tight  A10is the bottom of his calling range i think, only worry for me is the limper utg. Personally with the way the table was, i think its a close one, i only have 15bigs i have a chance of taking a bounty and i dont think im going to find a better spot than this.

AMYBR

For me the issue you is you have J high.  A very pretty J high yes but all the chips in there are going to entice the limper in.  Hes probably salivating at getting odds to take two bounties for a reasonable price with a hand he is interested in.

Plus if we lose this hand when we isolate, we have lost credibility at table (BH lol yeah right) but are significantly weaker when we do find a mandatory shove.

I understand your temptation, but I think we can find a much better spot bud.