20NL Line check

grantorino

Not long at table, no real reads on villian. Seems tight, definitely not a serial limpcaller

I usually 4b/c pre, and prob should have here, decided to flat ip though

Flop is standard imo

Turn is the main question, should I be calling here readless at 20 NL on this site?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£18.03
FORDYCE	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£20.10
	Your hole cards	Q Q
grantorino	Raise		£0.80	£1.10	£23.12
ZAB	Fold
pod1	Fold
x	Raise		£2.50	£3.60	£15.53
FORDYCE	Fold
grantorino	Call		£1.80	£5.40	£21.32
Flop
		4 J 8
x	Bet		£4.05	£9.45	£11.48
grantorino	Call		£4.05	£13.50	£17.27
Turn
		6
x	All-in		£11.48	£24.98	£0.00
grantorino	Call		£11.48	£36.46	£5.79

freechips1

Key to the hand is the 3bet from the sb.  If he is tight he aint doing this with K,J or A,J i think he flats with these.  So it leaves overpair AA KK QQ pos JJ nar, actually not JJ, dont think he bets turn so big, prob bets £5 on turn with JJ.
Could also be AKhh or AQhh.
20nl a 3bet from sb is always super narrow range.

pod1

if its who i think its is (isle of man ...) then is very aggro unless he comes up against resistance. he was on 4 of my tables and once he r

FORDYCE	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£20.61
grantorino	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£20.65
ricardo354	Big blind		£0.20	£0.50	£9.80
	Your hole cards	2 Q
ZAB	Fold
ricardo354	Check
pod1	Fold
	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£32.76
FORDYCE	Fold
grantorino	Fold
ricardo354	Call		£0.60	£1.90	£9.20
Flop
		K 7 8
ricardo354	Check
	Bet		£1.43	£3.33	£31.33
ricardo354	Call		£1.43	£4.76	£7.77
Turn
		3
ricardo354	Check
	Bet		£3.57	£8.33	£27.76
ricardo354	Raise		£7.14	£15.47	£0.63
	Fold
ricardo354	Muck
ricardo354	Win		£11.30		£11.93
ricardo354	Return		£3.57	£0.60	£15.50

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Nextaises flop he just kept firing.example :

pod1

ob he plays kk aa ak like this but i think he has a wider range than me :-). against him i think im calling this off.

grantorino

In Response to Re: 20NL Line check:

Key to the hand is the 3bet from the sb.  If he is tight he aint doing this with K,J or A,J i think he flats with these.  So it leaves overpair AA KK QQ pos JJ nar, actually not JJ, dont think he bets turn so big, prob bets £5 on turn with JJ. Could also be AKhh or AQhh. 20nl a 3bet from sb is always super narrow range.
Posted by freechips1

Yeah even if I get it in pre Im not fistpumping when he 3b my utg open oop. This is partly why I flatted as I wasnt sure he wouldnt 3b/f stuff like AQ,TT etc.

What would you expect his range to be pre?

Do people double barrell AK often in this spot?

I know these are very general questions havent played much here, just looking for an idea of what I should expect to see him turn over

IDONKCALLU

like freechips say its about the reraise preflop if hes been playing tight could easily have aa kk here if loose then yeah wider range but could have a set here 

freechips1

Pre flop 3 bet Range of AK, AQ (some 20nl regs/nits wont 3bet AQ OOP) and JJ+ abit unsure about tens, some will some wont, also some wont 3bet JJ oop.
If you was sat deep 200bb+ then i dont think AK or AQ would barrel the turn but in this hand with stack size i think he has no choice but to shove turn with AK.
I like the flat pre and i too am calling on turn, why? I cant/dont like/hate folding.
I think we are a small dog vs his range.