Quite gutted with this one!

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Given the number of times I dont flop a flush, I was prepared to belive the same is true for all players, so I

ZedsDeadBa

Crikey that was a rubbish effort!

Better?

Next Given the number of times I dont flop a flush, I was prepared to belive the same is true for all players, so I was happy to avoid scaring off my customer, obv this was a mistake, so should I have just been happy with what I had and given the scarey nature of the board, tried to get the money in on the flop?

ayer	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
wizzpop	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.30
buldog35	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.59
	Your hole cards	K J
Poplar134	Fold
percy120	Fold
ZedsDeadBa	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£4.97
wizzpop	Raise		£0.38	£0.60	£2.92
buldog35	Fold
ZedsDeadBa	Call		£0.24	£0.84	£4.73
Flop
		10 Q A
wizzpop	Bet		£0.63	£1.47	£2.29
ZedsDeadBa	Call		£0.63	£2.10	£4.10
Turn
		6
wizzpop	Bet		£1.05	£3.15	£1.24
ZedsDeadBa	Call		£1.05	£4.20	£3.05
River
		7
wizzpop	All-in		£1.24	£5.44	£0.00
ZedsDeadBa	Call		£1.24	£6.68	£1.81
wizzpop	Show	K A
ZedsDeadBa	Show	K J
wizzpop	Win	Flush to the Ace	£6.17		£6.17

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grantorino

fold to 3bet pre

raise flop, tonnes of value to be had

Dudeskin8

Snap fold pre.

Shove flop.

Win moniez.

unknown_username

Fold 3-bet pre flop readless.

Raise flop/shove flop.

If not shoving flop, then defo shove turn.

Basically, if villain has flopped a flush then so be it, but we dont want to give him a free card to draw to so after that flop i just start shovelling chips in the middle as soon as poss.

As played you can get away from dreaded river card and save yourself some cash. More aggro needed zed in this spot. Its a case of 'if he has it, he has it!'. Just get it in on flop or turn for me!

grantorino

if I raise flop its because it smacks his range hard and he'll get it in with lots or worse hands. Im much more worried about a card killing the action than beating me

rancid

Don't mind the flat pre IP, as long as you knwo where your at !!

raise flop, deffo raise turn

why flat flop ?

+1 GT, we don't wanna see cards that kill our action

KKrippler

Dont like this perception in the clinic that we must fold to any three bet.

We have the button, we've been re raised from the blind and we have pretty suited cards, I think peeling to c the flop is fine. 

Not in love with post flop play but definetly dont think it is bad to call pre.

ZedsDeadBa

Ok,

Good concise answers.

As ever, thanks.

Z.

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Quite gutted with this one!:

Dont like this perception in the clinic that we must fold to any three bet. We have the button, we've been re raised from the blind and we have pretty suited cards, I think peeling to c the flop is fine.  Not in love with post flop play but definetly dont think it is bad to call pre.
Posted by KKrippler

I agree with these points and it may be ok to peel and see a flop but its NL4 and i think we can wait for a better spot. Its all about getting value for your big hands and although i dont mind having a look it may be a bit loose at NL4 where tight ABC stuff invariably wins the money. 

Zed was dominated going in to the hand and got a great flop but this aint happening often enough to make the call profitable pre. Not saying its wrong to fold but i prefer it at the bottom level.