rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice

mahonedog

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
twokings	Sit out
snapes	Sit out
ECCENTRIC	Small blind		600.00	600.00	27765.00
mahonedog	Big blind		1200.00	1800.00	23675.00
	Your hole cards	A 10
HIBBY07	Fold
teddy707	Call		1200.00	3000.00	56235.00
ECCENTRIC	Call		600.00	3600.00	27165.00
mahonedog	Raise		1200.00	4800.00	22475.00
teddy707	Call		1200.00	6000.00	55035.00
ECCENTRIC	Call		1200.00	7200.00	25965.00
Flop
		J A 10
ECCENTRIC	Check
mahonedog	Bet		5400.00	12600.00	17075.00
teddy707	Call		5400.00	18000.00	49635.00
ECCENTRIC	Fold
Turn
		5
mahonedog	All-in		17075.00	35075.00	0.00
teddy707	Call		17075.00	52150.00	32560.00
mahonedog	Show	A 10
teddy707	Show	A 7
River
		J
teddy707	Win	Flush to the Ace	52150.00		84710.00

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rancid

shove pre or raise more

shove flop

MISTER_B

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice:

shove pre or raise more shove flop
Posted by rancid

agreed I would definatly bet more pre, minraise is too weak

debdobs_67

My perception here is that oppo wouldnt fold pre , on flop OR turn so just vvul

Dudeskin8

Very easy shove pre, looks like you've MR'd here, this is crazy as they have to call and most times you miss flop.

Post flop is good, defo not shoving flop with 22k behind and 7k in middle, we want calls not scare anything but made hands away.

@ Debs - That response seems VERY results orientated to me and doesn't change the fact his murdered the hand preflop.

unknown_username

I must admit, my first thought here was shove pre after some pretty weak action in front of you or at least raise more to have the hand done and dusted pre flop especially out of position.

If you take the pre flop play out of it, then the rest is fine and you were a big favourite going to the river card. Unlucky at the end but the pre flop play was probably where the hand went wrong in my opinion.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice:

Very easy shove pre, looks like you've MR'd here, this is crazy as they have to call and most times you miss flop. Post flop is good, defo not shoving flop with 22k behind and 7k in middle, we want calls not scare anything but made hands away. @ Debs - That response seems VERY results orientated to me and doesn't change the fact his murdered the hand preflop.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Well just looks like a raggy A player to me so i stand by what i said , tho obv the minraise pre was the wrong play.

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice:

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice : Well just looks like a raggy A player to me so i stand by what i said , tho obv the minraise pre was the wrong play.
Posted by debdobs_67

You can put him exactly on a rag ace by his open limp? Well wouldn't that make shove pre better as you KNOW you're a fave if it goes in pre?

Mohican

Limpers could easily be set miners. Min raise is never going to get rid of them,whatever their hand is. I'm making this a minimum of 3600. If both still call it's an easy shove on a wet flop.

IDONKCALLU

standard squeeze play here shove all in for me i dnt like limpers on these blind levels gotta be all in here 

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice:

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice : You can put him exactly on a rag ace by his open limp? Well wouldn't that make shove pre better as you KNOW you're a fave if it goes in pre?
Posted by Dudeskin8

Ofc i cant , dont think ure quiet umderstanding what im sayin tbh , cos he DID call the min raise pre a raggy ACE is pretty common here as is small pp's , AK AQ AJ A10 KQ KJ usually raise pre , also as i DID SAY in reply to ure 1st post the min raise was not good

ps i still reckon he woulda called an all-in shove anyway

tapeworm

raise more pre

mahonedog

In Response to Re: rivered again bad luck or bad play? need advice:

shove pre or raise more shove flop
Posted by rancid

blinds wernt big enough and A10 suited, at preraise to go all in is a bit risky but floping two pair should have shoved def will next time

mahonedog

was a bit drunk when playing so i got  pisshed and fished at same time lol

waynec

Min raise with AT dont make sense and dont tell me "I was building a pot!" with AT you need to raise 3X