DYM - 99 on Btn 17bbs at 50/100

Dudeskin8

Best play here, I don't like r/f and even if raise is called flop play will be beyond a nightmare, limp obvz terribad so feels like shove fold is that right thinking?

Other stacks have more than me, like 2k summit

GREGHOGG	Small blind		50.00	50.00	2147.50
shakyqs	Big blind		100.00	150.00	2677.50
	Your hole cards	9 9
essexmatt3	Fold
2jons	Fold
Dudeskin8

debdobs_67

I raise 250-300 and hope they fold and nick blinds , if called and more than 1 overcard then it depends on what oppos do

Lambert180

I hate these spots. 17BBs is too many to open shove here but any other option is also horrible. Probably do what Debs says.

TWRAMYEP

In Response to DYM - 99 on Btn 17bbs at 50/100:

Best play here, I don't like r/f and even if raise is called flop play will be beyond a nightmare, limp obvz terribad so feels like shove fold is that right thinking? Other stacks have more than me, like 2k summit GREGHOGG Small blind   50.00 50.00 2147.50 shakyqs Big blind   100.00 150.00 2677.50   Your hole cards 9 9       essexmatt3 Fold         2jons Fold         Dudeskin8
Posted by Dudeskin8

Shoving is +EV but probablies not the most +EV move.
Below are a few situations when I might shove these spots :
1. When villians have tendency to play back pre (I dont want to induce a 3bet or a shove)
2. When villians are to loose pre and tricky or aggro post (again I dont want to be in a guessing game)
3. When I have been active, I dont want villians playing back even if my hand is beating there range.
4. When I multi tabling - I shove it alot more when I have several tables wanting actions.

Basicaly shoving definatly makes you chips but putting in a standard raise will make you a few more if you want to "play poker" and make a decision pre flop to a rasie or a shove, or play post.

I think 17bbs are fine for a raise and a c-bet, your still OK with about 11bbs if it dosent work out. Got to admit thou I shove this more than most