DYM Bubble - pass this

rancid

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
YNWA1981	Small blind		100.00	100.00	2150.00
rancid	Big blind		200.00	300.00	2475.00
	Your hole cards	5 5
rochdale15	Fold
awesomeee	Fold
YNWA1981	All-in		2150.00	2450.00	0.00
rancid

jackda

Easy fold for me.Racing at best,and still time for a better spot.

Lambert180

easy fold

debdobs_67

Even if ure ahead i reckon you prob face 2 overcards so easy fold

rancid

Fold to victory )

Dudeskin8

If you're even thinking about calling here you should stay clear of DYM's .

YOUNG_GUN

Foldage

rancid

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this:

Even if ure ahead i reckon you prob face 2 overcards so easy fold
Posted by debdobs_67

This could be where I am going wayward with DYM to be honest.

My AIPR calling range here where all players are sitting with 7-12 bigs on the bubble maybe is wider than it should be leading to big swings from one session to another. Even though my calls are good, I am still losing - but over a bigger sample size I will win money right :S

Is the issue I need to have >55% equity versus shovers range here ?

 What’s our calling range here ?

 But we can shove 55+ no problem right ?

 

 

The problem I have is, at some point very soon we are going to get our chips in middle

If we get shorter we are shoving worse hands and less equity than 55 for example

 

Are we just folding any hands that are likely to be flipping ? Not enough equity !

Only time we happy flipping is when short stack right ?

So many questions, so little time :S

Feels like we not playing much poker in these DYM 

YNWA1981	All-in		2150.00	2450.00	0.00
rancid	Call		2050.00	4500.00	425.00
YNWA1981	Show	8 Q
rancid	Show	5 5
Flop
		A Q 7
Turn
		7
River
		10
YNWA1981	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 7s	4500.00		4500.00

TWRAMYEP

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this:

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this : This could be where I am going wayward with DYM to be honest. My AIPR calling range here where all players are sitting with 7-12 bigs on the bubble maybe is wider than it should be leading to big swings from one session to another. Even though my calls are good, I am still losing - but over a bigger sample size I will win money right :S Is the issue I need to have />55% equity versus shovers range here ?   What’s our calling range here ?   But we can shove 55+ no problem right ?     The problem I have is, at some point very soon we are going to get our chips in middle If we get shorter we are shoving worse hands and less equity than 55 for example   Are we just folding any hands that are likely to be flipping ? Not enough equity ! Only time we happy flipping is when short stack right ? So many questions, so little time :S Feels like we not playing much poker in these DYM  YNWA1981 All-in   2150.00 2450.00 0.00 rancid Call   2050.00 4500.00 425.00 YNWA1981 Show 8 Q       rancid Show 5 5       Flop     A Q 7       Turn     7       River     10       YNWA1981 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 7s 4500.00   4500.00
Posted by rancid

I dont know where your getting " />55% equity" from? Its not a cash game.
If villan is shoving lets say round about 20% here, you need 70%+  equity against this range to make a good call, something like (TT+AK, AQs)
If villian is shoving ATC here its still a fold. Do your self a favour and download sitngo wiz then u can answer these questions yourself

rancid

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this:

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this : I dont know where your getting " />55% equity" from? Its not a cash game. If villan is shoving lets say round about 20% here, you need 70%+  equity against this range to make a good call, something like (TT+AK, AQs) If villian is shoving ATC here its still a fold. Do your self a favour and download sitngo wiz then u can answer these questions yourself
Posted by TWRAMYEP

Emmmm, yeah maybe I should

Essentially calling range should be narrow, ie more equity

Don’t think I need sitngo wiz to tell me that but I hear what your saying.

Do we really need to crush oppo range here, or could we drop to 77+AK,AQ,AJ :S

 

Thanks 

Dudeskin8

You have 12 bbs here so IMO are pretty safe from danger for the time being so to CALL an AI I would need at least QQ maybe 10's/JJ if they've been raising every BvB situation.

Yes you were ahead here but only 51% to win so basically a flip and in a DYM there is no need to flip unnecaseraly (spelling lol) as it's top 3 paid, in an MTT you obvz need to race as the prize pool is top heavy so trying to 'cash' is pointless in the longterm. 

You mention when we shove later it's with worse hands but you're not stupid and surely realise you can shove ATC but to CALL an AI you need a decent hand so most times they fold you steall blinds, move to next hand.

TWRAMYEP

Well if villian has exactly 20% shoving range here, and lets pretend that he does and Ive just made some assumptions about the other two players stacks (making them equalish) then calling with anything less than TT+ AK, AQs+ is -EV, In other words calling with 99 or AJs will loose you equity in the sitngo and Cash in the long run.
Obviuosly if you feel villian if wider than 20% then you adjust your calling range apropiatly.
 These numbers are pulled from ICM%EV calculators but in my experience DYM players dont shove wide and often enougth and call to wide and to much.

rancid

Ok, ok I need to download this sitngo wiz me thinks.

The key here is oppo shoving range, and you say oppo’s  shoving 20% of range ?

So I think oppo is shoving 30% then I can call wider right ?

 

 

What does 20% look like )

TWRAMYEP

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Its free, does exacaly what wiz does and comes already loaded with 6max dons and should answer all your questions

rancid

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this:

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Posted by TWRAMYEP

cheers dude

rancid

In Response to Re: DYM Bubble - pass this:

Check out this: http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#default Its free, does exacaly what wiz does and comes already loaded with 6max dons and should answer all your questions
Posted by TWRAMYEP

This is a really nice bit of kit, thanks m8ty