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how to manipulate/distort the truth

DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
edited January 2012 in Area 51
 My "favourite" hand apart from aces is q9.

some people say you should not have a favourite hand but i disagree.

imo it helps to have a hand that you always open/3 bet with.
as otherwise i can sit for hours being a nit!

so just to prove you gan get into a mindset of thinking.
"aa always loses" "q9 always wins".

i will prove how easy it is to get sucked in by posting q9 winning over the next couple of days.
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited December 2011
    never loses........

    UDirtyRAT Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £17.39 Jaker Big blind  £0.10 £0.20 £4.14 horse24z Big blind  £0.10 £0.30 £3.90   Your hole cards K Q       DAVEYZZ Raise  £0.40 £0.70 £9.50 Sparky762 Raise  £0.70 £1.40 £3.74 horse24z Fold     rfox146 Call  £0.70 £2.10 £8.99 UDirtyRAT Fold     Jaker Call  £0.60 £2.70 £3.54 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.30 £3.00 £9.20 Flop    J 8 7       Jaker Check     DAVEYZZ Check     Sparky762 Check     rfox146 Check     Turn    6       Jaker Check     DAVEYZZ Bet  £2.25 £5.25 £6.95 Sparky762 Call  £2.25 £7.50 £1.49 rfox146 Fold     Jaker Fold     River    10       DAVEYZZ Bet  £3.75 £11.25 £3.20 Sparky762 All-in  £1.49 £12.74 £0.00 DAVEYZZ Unmatched bet  £2.26 £10.48 £5.46 DAVEYZZ Show K Q    Sparky762 Show 9 Q    Sparky762 Win Straight to the Queen £9.69  £9.69
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited December 2011
    never loses.....
    Hand History #456950178 (14:23 31/12/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceDAVEYZZ Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £8.11 Sparky762 Big blind  £0.10 £0.20 £6.83 blondynka7 Big blind  £0.10 £0.30 £9.90   Your hole cards 9 J       stiffy610 Raise  £0.20 £0.50 £9.40 blondynka7 Fold     UDirtyRAT Call  £0.20 £0.70 £26.27 Jaker Call  £0.20 £0.90 £3.57 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.10 £1.00 £8.01 Sparky762 Call  £0.10 £1.10 £6.73 Flop    3 7 8       DAVEYZZ Check     Sparky762 Check     stiffy610 Check     UDirtyRAT Bet  £0.55 £1.65 £25.72 Jaker All-in  £3.57 £5.22 £0.00 DAVEYZZ Fold     Sparky762 Call  £3.57 £8.79 £3.16 stiffy610 Fold     UDirtyRAT Fold     Sparky762 Show 3 7    Jaker Show 9 Q    Turn    6       River    10       Jaker Win Flush to the Queen £8.13  £8.13
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  • demondavedemondave
    edited December 2011
    In Response to how to manipulate/distort the truth:
     My "favourite" hand apart from aces is q9. some people say you should not have a favourite hand but i disagree. imo it helps to have a hand that you always open/3 bet with. as otherwise i can sit for hours being a nit! so just to prove you gan get into a mindset of thinking. "aa always loses" "q9 always wins". i will prove how easy it is to get sucked in by posting q9 winning over the next couple of days.
    Posted by DAVEYZZ

    heres another one...........


    Hand History #457051782 (18:07 31/12/2011)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    demondave Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £4.88
    teddy991 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.51
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • Q
    		     
    stokefc Fold     
    INTHEDARK Call  £0.10 £0.25 £8.62
    BOATINGSAM Call  £0.10 £0.35 £2.30
    demondave Call  £0.05 £0.40 £4.83
    teddy991 Check     
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 6
    • 6
    		     
    demondave Check     
    teddy991 Check     
    INTHEDARK Check     
    BOATINGSAM Check     
    Turn
       
    • 6
    		     
    demondave Check     
    teddy991 Check     
    INTHEDARK Bet  £0.40 £0.80 £8.22
    BOATINGSAM Fold     
    demondave Call  £0.40 £1.20 £4.43
    teddy991 Fold     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    demondave Check     
    INTHEDARK Check     
    demondave Show
    • 9
    • Q
    		   
    INTHEDARK Muck
    • 4
    • 4
    		   
    demondave Win Full House, 6s and Queens £1.11  £5.54
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited December 2011

    davayzz...it's all very well proving this but you never lose irrespective of your starting hand.  i reckon that even if you had one hole card you would still flop a royal flush.

    ps.  happy new year.

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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    davayzz...it's all very well proving this but you never lose irrespective of your starting hand.  i reckon that even if you had one hole card you would still flop a royal flush. ps.  happy new year.
    Posted by aussie09
    :)..just proves it is all luck!

    happy new year to you mate
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  • baggsbaggs
    edited January 2012

    Your not seeing (or posting) the times q9 folds so what point are you are trying to make

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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    Your not seeing (or posting) the times q9 folds so what point are you are trying to make
    Posted by baggs
    this is exactly the point i am making.

    we get selective memory and only remember the times our aa/ak loses(a bit like your 88 post)
    but when our hand holds up it does not even register because "aa should never lose to 74off"
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    as i said NEVER loses

    Hand History #457455218 (19:13 01/01/2012)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesuper_fly Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £19.18 Holdema Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £38.73 PICMAN Big blind  £0.20 £0.50 £19.06   Your hole cards Q 9       PICMAN Check     DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £0.70 £16.85 endurance Fold     Thelunker Call  £0.20 £0.90 £28.60 super_fly Fold     Holdema Check     Flop    J 10 3       Holdema Check     PICMAN Check     DAVEYZZ Check     Thelunker Check     Turn    3       Holdema Check     PICMAN Bet  £0.45 £1.35 £18.61 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.45 £1.80 £16.40 Thelunker Fold     Holdema Fold     River    2       PICMAN Bet  £0.40 £2.20 £18.21 DAVEYZZ Raise  £1.20 £3.40 £15.20 PICMAN Fold     DAVEYZZ Show Q 9    DAVEYZZ Win  £2.47  £17.67 DAVEYZZ Return  £0.80
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    YUPS Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £11.59
    horacewimp Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £11.02
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • Q
    		     
    DN34689 Fold     
    bambix01 Fold     
    DAVEYZZ Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £15.92
    super_fly Fold     
    YUPS Fold     
    horacewimp Fold     
    DAVEYZZ Muck     
    DAVEYZZ Win  £0.50  £16.42
    DAVEYZZ Return  £0.40 £0.00 £16.82
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited January 2012
    Please what are the odds of Q9 bein dealt ??
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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    same as any 2 i guess

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  • baggsbaggs
    edited January 2012
    You're sampling based on q9 winning though. Its not even remotely random. All you are doing is finding a winning q9 and posting it.
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    You're sampling based on q9 winning though. Its not even remotely random. All you are doing is finding a winning q9 and posting it.
    Posted by baggs
    again..that is exactly my point...people come on here and state that sky is fixed,then put up posts where they lose when having been ahead .ie finding a losing hand and posting it.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    q 9 is da nutz!
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth : again..that is exactly my point...people come on here and state that sky is fixed,then put up posts where they lose when having been ahead .ie finding a losing hand and posting it.
    Posted by DAVEYZZ
    Well after this pointless thread at least i now know what the ZZ stands for in your poker alias

    nite nite zzzzz
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  • baggsbaggs
    edited January 2012

    Sorry but its not a very good point in my opinion. You are specifically sampling a hand and posting it. It does absolutely nothing but prove that q9 comes out and sometimes it wins. You argue against the people who may feel the rng is not random and the strength of your argument is finding q9 hands and posting them. Must try harder

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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    ed40 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £18.25 Dumbmofo Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £19.80   Your hole cards Q 9       FORDYCE Fold     DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £0.50 £24.45 Blackj4ck Fold     ed40 Raise  £0.30 £0.80 £17.95 Dumbmofo Fold     DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £1.00 £24.25 Flop    Q 3 8       ed40 Bet  £0.20 £1.20 £17.75 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £1.40 £24.05 Turn    K       ed40 Bet  £0.20 £1.60 £17.55 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £1.80 £23.85 River    5       ed40 Bet  £0.20 £2.00 £17.35 DAVEYZZ Call  £0.20 £2.20 £23.65 ed40 Show J J    DAVEYZZ Show Q 9    DAVEYZZ Win Pair of Queens £2.09  £25.74 PrevClose windowNext
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    Sorry but its not a very good point in my opinion. You are specifically sampling a hand and posting it. It does absolutely nothing but prove that q9 comes out and sometimes it wins. You argue against the people who may feel the rng is not random and the strength of your argument is finding q9 hands and posting them. Must try harder
    Posted by baggs
    dont you see we are agreeing.......its is a totally useless exercise to keep posting hand(winning and losing) and then claiming its fixed/broken because there are ten samples on a thread.

    just like posting everytime a rag ace beats a pocket pair
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  • -TARAS--TARAS-
    edited January 2012
    Pmsl, this post could run the whole year
          do you guys agree to disagree
               or disagree to agree ?
                  either way i'm luvvin it
           
              PS.  Fwiw Sky poker is not fixed unless someone says it is
                           then i agree !
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  • baggsbaggs
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth : dont you see we are agreeing.......its is a totally useless exercise to keep posting hand(winning and losing) and then claiming its fixed/broken because there are ten samples on a thread. just like posting everytime a rag ace beats a pocket pair
    Posted by DAVEYZZ
    But its not totally useless to spend yout time claiming its not when the sum of your evidence is that there isnt any evidence . At least people are letting off steam, Im really not seeing the objective of your posts
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  • mickgil75mickgil75
    edited January 2012

    ANY TWO WILL DO,THE SKY MOTTO.LOL

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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth : But its not totally useless to spend yout time claiming its not when the sum of your evidence is that there isnt any evidence . At least people are letting off steam, Im really not seeing the objective of your posts
    Posted by baggs
    the object is to prove that people can get into a mindset of thinking they "always lose" with aces etc(then post a couple of hands where they lose).
    you can take any two cards and post them winning/losing all the time but it doesnt mean its rigged...........
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  • baggsbaggs
    edited January 2012
    Your missing the point. I mean the general objective of continually posting in Area51. And do you think you are achieving it
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: how to manipulate/distort the truth:
    Your missing the point. I mean the general objective of continually posting in Area51. And do you think you are achieving it
    Posted by baggs
    1.to relive boredom.....yes

    2.to limit vists to por n sites.......ermm not really :)
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    never ever loses!

    TELLO-210 Small blind  15.00 15.00 2110.00 ken1950 Big blind  30.00 45.00 2142.50   Your hole cards Q 9       mannylad24 Fold     RAZOLAZO1 Fold     DAVEYZZ Raise  120.00 165.00 1530.00 kylehump01 Fold     TELLO-210 Fold     ken1950 Call  90.00 255.00 2052.50 Flop    J K 9       ken1950 Bet  30.00 285.00 2022.50 DAVEYZZ Raise  300.00 585.00 1230.00 ken1950 Call  270.00 855.00 1752.50 Turn    Q       ken1950 Check     DAVEYZZ Bet  641.25 1496.25 588.75 ken1950 Call  641.25 2137.50 1111.25 River    9       ken1950 All-in  1111.25 3248.75 0.00 DAVEYZZ All-in  588.75 3837.50 0.00 ken1950 Unmatched bet  522.50 3315.00 522.50 ken1950 Show K 4    DAVEYZZ Show Q 9    DAVEYZZ Win Full House, 9s and Queens 3315.00  3315.00
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ
    edited January 2012
    never!

    4613883462012-01-09 19:20:34£6.909Q8K310J£3.15DAVEYZZ won £6.55 with a Straight to the King
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  • rancidrancid
    edited January 2012
    I have a few fav hands that revolve around the lucky NINE

    109
    J9
    Q9
    89
    79
    69

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