Shove and hope??

debdobs_67

As said do i just shove here all of the time after my pre flop play , not worried about eventual outcome win/lose , just wanna know cos of pot size i wanna call here if poss yeah ?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
debdobs_67	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1895.00
tizzyman	Big blind		30.00	45.00	4020.00
	Your hole cards	Q Q
flashjnr28	Call		30.00	75.00	2000.00
lea116311	Fold
cici	Call		30.00	105.00	2772.50
rocco12311	Fold
debdobs_67	Raise		135.00	240.00	1760.00
tizzyman	Fold
flashjnr28	Call		120.00	360.00	1880.00
cici	Call		120.00	480.00	2652.50
Flop
		K Q 8
debdobs_67	All-in		1760.00	2240.00	0.00
flashjnr28	Call		1760.00	4000.00	120.00
cici	Fold
debdobs_67	Show	Q Q
flashjnr28	Show	9 A
Turn
		9
River
		10
flashjnr28	Win	Flush to the Ace	4000.00		4120.00

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Dudeskin8

Raise more pre imo 150 here so at least 200, nit-picky but they will still call so go for the max.

Flop just bet standard so here like 350-400, by shoving you prevent him from bluffing/making mistakes, you force him to play correctly. 

DOHHHHHHH

Krazy

Bet 250, n SNAPPPPPPPITOFFFFFF

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Shove and hope??:

Raise more pre imo 150 here so at least 200, nit-picky but they will still call so go for the max. Flop just bet standard so here like 350-400, by shoving you prevent him from bluffing/making mistakes, you force him to play correctly. 
Posted by Dudeskin8

Its a bounty hunter , that means MOST will call my all-in with 2 pair , top pair and ofc a flush draw

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Shove and hope??:

Krazy Bet 250, n SNAPPPPPPPITOFFFFFF
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Dont get this ??

Dudeskin8

Yes MOST will call with those hands but if they don't have them you lose value, you have like the 3rd nuts ruling out different types of flopped flush so don't wanna scare people away. 

unknown_username

I like that shove, good agression. If he was drawing with only one diamond he wouldnt of had the odds to call,
but think alot of the time players dont think about weather they have the correct odds or not and call anyway!
Well played.

unknown_username

I think it may be too aggressive. By shoving, i think you may be folding out a few hands that you beat, for example, flush draws, straight draws and the odd raggy King. I would want them to come along for another street at least to get max value.

Rightly or wrongly, i would bet about 380 and then call the shove. In this hand, its all going in anyway. I dont actually hate the shove, its a bounty hunter so your right in saying you will get loose calls, but i just think we may keep some worse hands in by betting less.

grantorino

much prefer bet 300-350, call it off obv.

If they have 2pr or better money still goes in. Openshoving means they are more likely to fold top pair and draws, although they will sometimes still call. Also a smaller bet lets them semibluff shove