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ERR ok then

djblacke04djblacke04
edited January 2012 in Area 51


i say it best , when i say nothing at all .........


Hand History #458530794 (21:48 03/01/2012)

Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
aussie09 Small blind   15.00 15.00 2325.00
PhilB27111 Big blind   30.00 45.00 2150.00
Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
djblacke04 Raise   90.00 135.00 1825.00
yozza256 Fold        
Bareback Call   90.00 225.00 2150.00
JackWest Fold        
aussie09 Raise   195.00 420.00 2130.00
PhilB27111 Call   180.00 600.00 1970.00
djblacke04 All-in   1825.00 2425.00 0.00
Bareback Fold        
aussie09 Call   1705.00 4130.00 425.00
PhilB27111 Fold        
aussie09 Show
  • 3
  • 4
     
djblacke04 Show
  • K
  • A
     
Flop
  • Q
  • Q
  • K
Turn
  • 10
River
  • 7
aussie09 Win Flush to the King 4130.00 
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012

    this should be in brag section... mods please move

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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    this should be in brag section... mods please move
    Posted by aussie09

    well i suppose if u always get it in as a 38% underdog u are going to win a few .:)


    keep calling :).....
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012

    yes a 38% chance of winning, but i think you'll find that betting 1,705 to win a return of 4,130 is a 41% profitable action    .

    ;-)


    in the words of scooby-doo, "Zoink"

     

     

     
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    yes a 38% chance of winning, but i think you'll find that betting 1,705 to win a return of 4,130 is a 41% profitable action . ;-) in the words of scooby-doo, "Zoink"     
    Posted by aussie09

    er would be if that was correct,lol...actually u are betting 1705 to win 2425......but i can see why you make these calls now..:)


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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012

    you have forgotten that you were short stacked in a bounty hunter and your head prize is added into the equation.  next time you are in a bounty hunter you should factor in your head prize, it will save you so much anguish.  chillax man.  chill babe.

    i am planning to spend your £8 head prize tonight towards a bottle of wine in a restaurant this evening.  cheers and thanks.  lol


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  • splashiessplashies
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    you have forgotten that you were short stacked in a bounty hunter and your head prize is added into the equation.  next time you are in a bounty hunter you should factor in your head prize, it will save you so much anguish.  chillax man.  chill babe. lol
    Posted by aussie09

    He was just below his starting stack in level 2. Hardly short stacked lol ~60bb

    Strange call with 4 high imo
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012

    true.. shorter stacked i meant

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    you have forgotten that you were short stacked in a bounty hunter and your head prize is added into the equation.  next time you are in a bounty hunter you should factor in your head prize, it will save you so much anguish.  chillax man.  chill babe. i am planning to spend your £8 head prize tonight towards a bottle of wine in a restaurant this evening.  cheers and thanks.  lol
    Posted by aussie09
    wow when I first read this I assumed it must have been just a 2/5 quid buy in donk-around...

    But 8 quid head prize!!!! wow! lolol

    At least you're spending it wisely although 10 cans is better value imo ;)
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012

    hi dohhhhhhh, i had in mind that a post from you would be good.  djblacke is on the front foot as he didn't like his AK losing in this manner.  i have only been trying to defend and explain the mathematics and that it really isn't an area51 happening.... if anything it's a flip, if getting off the fence it's a positive play.   but i value your opinion. 
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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    the way i see it is 34 gives you so many options! very underated hand i feel.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2012
    DJ has been the first to criticise players in the past for over-valuing Ace King.

    "why are you putting 60xbb in with Ace high ??? ........."
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    the way i see it is 34 gives you so many options! very underated hand i feel.
    Posted by pod1
    lol pod1



    ps  suited too.


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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    you never know when that extra 2% comes in handy lol
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  • NColleyNColley
    edited January 2012

    you call off when behind, and now trying to justify calling a 4 bet with 34 by saying its maths?

    heres how your hand looks against a standard 4bet range

     equity  win  tie        pots won  pots tied 
    Hand 0:  28.906%   28.65%  00.26%        16678464     150097.50   { 4h3h }
    Hand 1:  71.094%   70.84%  00.26%        41239677     150097.50   { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


    not even close to a profitable call.

    1700 more to win an increase of 2400? I'm open to reasoning as to why we should treat it as 1700 more to win 4100 when in reality the increase of our stack is only 2400.

    Quick calc, think its ok.

    (-1700 x 71%) + (2400 x 29%) =
    -1207 + 696 =
    -511

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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    metagame??
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  • djblacke04djblacke04
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: ERR ok then:
    you call off when behind, and now trying to justify calling a 4 bet with 34 by saying its maths? heres how your hand looks against a standard 4bet range  equity  win  tie        pots won  pots tied  Hand 0:  28.906%   28.65%  00.26%        16678464     150097.50   { 4h3h } Hand 1:  71.094%   70.84%  00.26%        41239677     150097.50   { QQ+, AKs, AKo } not even close to a profitable call. 1700 more to win an increase of 2400? I'm open to reasoning as to why we should treat it as 1700 more to win 4100 when in reality the increase of our stack is only 2400. Quick calc, think its ok. (-1700 x 71%) + (2400 x 29%) = -1207 + 696 = -511
    Posted by NColley

    dont try and reason with them...they are right and we are wrong  :)

    ps i thought it was £3.50 head prize....

    keep calling  :)
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  • penguin7penguin7
    edited January 2012
    I like your play here Rob.

    It is a bounty hunter and when you made the call you also had another player behind you with chips already in the pot. And with his stack size he could easily have called too with a wide range.

    34 suited plays well against two opponents IMO. You could have had a fish supper with your wine.
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