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Facing river shove

Poker_FailPoker_Fail
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic

why did you bet the flop?

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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    Oppo was a bit stationy, had called a big flop 3bet and turn bet with an underpair a few hands previous.

    I can't give him too much credit for an ace here, can I?

    Would it be a+EV call?

    EDIT: Failed at copy and pasting but oppo shoved the riverrrrrr
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    wigancarl Small blind   £0.20 £0.20 £32.25
    Poker_Fail Big blind   £0.40 £0.60 £55.09
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
    		     
    TonyMT Fold        
    callidus Call   £0.40 £1.00 £128.75
    torres215 Call   £0.40 £1.40 £110.20
    neville01 Call   £0.40 £1.80 £23.94
    wigancarl Call   £0.20 £2.00 £32.05
    Poker_Fail Raise   £2.00 £4.00 £53.09
    callidus Fold        
    torres215 Fold        
    neville01 Call   £2.00 £6.00 £21.94
    wigancarl Call   £2.00 £8.00 £30.05
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 6
    • Q
    		     
    wigancarl Check        
    Poker_Fail Bet   £5.40 £13.40 £47.69
    neville01 Fold        
    wigancarl Call   £5.40 £18.80 £24.65
    Turn
       
    • 10
    		     
    wigancarl Check        
    Poker_Fail Check        
    River
       
    • K
    		   
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    I thought I pretty much had to cbet after the 6x pre :(
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  • potattoooopotattoooo
    edited January 2012
    look at your hand, look at flop, look how many ppl are in the pot, think about preflop callin ranges. as played if the guy shoves fold river
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited January 2012
    hate the raise preflop here m8 y not just check and see a cheap flop and try and hit ya set when u raise and get called your only loving a 9 high flop your always going to get overcards and when ya do u gotta think what are people calling your preflop raise with range of hands could easily be A Q  A  J   K  Q   K  J  so i would never c -bet here just a horible situation u got yaself in if u just check preflop in the big blind u only lose 40p 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2012
    looks like a nice table!

    I wish I could table select this well when taking shots :(

    -----------------

    What r ur reasons for cbetting? why do you think it's good? r u bluffing, or value betting?

    Will they fold Kx &/or Qx? 

    Do you put them all on KT? what else will call that you can beat?
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Facing river shove:
    looks like a nice table! I wish I could table select this well when taking shots :( ----------------- What r ur reasons for cbetting? why do you think it's good? r u bluffing, or value betting? Will they fold Kx &/or Qx?  Do you put them all on KT? what else will call that you can beat?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    I knew wigancarl could call light pre, so could've very easily missed or maybe have a low pair

    Thought other oppo had a reasonable chance of hitting but that he'd miss enough times for it to be ok, i guess i'm just a donk :/
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  • NColleyNColley
    edited January 2012

    Don't cbet these type of flops vs whales, you wait patiently for the times you get tp/overpair/set and extract.

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Facing river shove:
    look at your hand, look at flop, look how many ppl are in the pot, think about preflop callin ranges. as played if the guy shoves fold river
    Posted by potattoooo

    +1

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  • rancidrancid
    edited January 2012
    9's from the bb ain't easy to play

    call pre - look for a safe flop or maybe a set

    by raising pre your forced to c bet just in an attampt to take down pot

    when called - give up

    river - c/c reasonable size bet - oppo shoved = fold
    SIGH !
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8
    edited January 2012
    100% check in BB for me, after that action just pretend you have pocket 2's and set-mine.

    As played got to check flop imo it hits their L/C range so hard, be amazed if that cbet ever got through longterm.

    River check, pray for tiny bet and just call.
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    Oops I made a mistake when C + Ping, oppo lead shoves the river!
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    AFTER I have made the apparently bad cbet, when he shoves the river I am getting 1.76:1 on a call

    If he has an Ace less than 56.7% of the time it is the right call and I don't see him having it that often in this situation.

    How often do you think oppo has it here?
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