nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise

rancid

No real history with oppo, seems TAG

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
tiptaptoe	Big blind		£0.10	£0.10	£2.92
	Your hole cards	7 7
GREGHOGG	Fold
dawn1970	Fold
rancid	Raise		£0.40	£0.50	£36.45
X	Call		£0.40	£0.90	£7.32
tiptaptoe	Fold
Flop
		8 9 4
rancid	Check
X	Check
Turn
		A
rancid	Check
X	Check
River
		7
rancid	Bet		£1.40	£2.30	£35.05
X	Raise		£2.80	£5.10	£4.52
rancid

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Considering they have ~£4 left on river im pretty sure its a shove. I think theres probably enough hands you beat in his range that merit the value shove vs the number of times he has you beat.

Beat: 98, 44, 87, A9, A8, A4, A7, Ax one pairs

Lose: 99, 88, AA, JT, 56

If he calls all his Ax one pairs, then yeah, I think you have to shove. Ul if you ran into the nuts.

LnarinOO

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise:

Considering they have ~£4 left on river im pretty sure its a shove. I think theres probably enough hands you beat in his range that merit the value shove vs the number of times he has you beat. Beat: 98, 44, 87, A9, A8, A4, A7, Ax one pairs Lose: 99, 88, AA, JT, 56 If he calls all his Ax one pairs, then yeah, I think you have to shove. Ul if you ran into the nuts.
Posted by CoxyLboro

defo ship the lot but dont think any of these hands are in his rage 

LnarinOO

maybe 56 spades

LnarinOO

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise:

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise : defo ship the lot but dont think any of these hands are in his rage 
Posted by LnarinOO

actually i take it back i spose he can with this stack

rancid

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise:

Considering they have ~£4 left on river im pretty sure its a shove. I think theres probably enough hands you beat in his range that merit the value shove vs the number of times he has you beat.

Beat: 98, 44, 87, A9, A8, A4, A7, Ax one pairs
Lose: 99, 88, AA, JT, 56 If he calls all his Ax one pairs,

then yeah, I think you have to shove. Ul if you ran into the nuts.
Posted by CoxyLboro

Would think oppo bets most of the range I beat on the turn
What hands is oppo min raising river for value, this was my concern
7 brings in draws so.....

I was stuck between shove or call
Had this guy on my shoulder saying "you have set, you must go for full value - shove it"

potattoooo

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise:

Considering they have ~£4 left on river im pretty sure its a shove. I think theres probably enough hands you beat in his range that merit the value shove vs the number of times he has you beat. Beat: 98, 44, 87, A9, A8, A4, A7, Ax one pairs Lose: 99, 88, AA, JT, 56 If he calls all his Ax one pairs, then yeah, I think you have to shove. Ul if you ran into the nuts.
Posted by CoxyLboro

do you not think the most of the range you have assigned bets flop/turn?

this is an easy flat tbh & ill make notes if i did lose value

potattoooo

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise:

In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise : defo ship the lot but dont think any of these hands are in his rage 
Posted by LnarinOO

this makes no sense at all

LnarinOO

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In Response to Re: nl10 rivered set - call/fold/raise : this makes no sense at all
Posted by potattoooo

basically i meant get ya money in..!! i dont think many of those hands sated were in villains range otherwise im sure we would have heard from them before the river, but u see some werid things at lower stakes i recon..! only value hand that stands out to me would be 56. 

the pot after flop is only 9bb with 73 effective behind.. surely 2 pair or sets wouldnt check twice. and J10 would at least have a stab wen check to twice.. withh stack sizes it polarised to nuts or air but u see werid things and 77 aint far from nutted given this line so shove..!!

also possible misclick back as min raise.

NColley

Some people won't bet straight draws on the turn even when checked to twice.

Flat, take note of what villian does in that situation (i.e, what he can call pre then refuses to bet when checked to twice in position)