NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?

rancid

Hand History #462462757 (22:43 11/01/2012)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
marrs04	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.49
purehate	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£4.17
	Your hole cards	A A
Mrw353	Fold
rancid	Raise		£0.32	£0.44	£36.10
marrs04	Call		£0.28	£0.72	£2.21
purehate	Call		£0.24	£0.96	£3.93
Flop
		7 5 5
marrs04	Check
purehate	Bet		£0.48	£1.44	£3.45
rancid	Raise		£0.96	£2.40	£35.14
marrs04	Call		£0.96	£3.36	£1.25
purehate	Call		£0.48	£3.84	£2.97
Turn
		10
marrs04	Check
purehate	Bet		£1.92	£5.76	£1.05
rancid

Dudeskin8

I'd raise more on flop, a minraise achieves nothing and tbh quite surprised that you wou would do it. 

Raising to £1.50 commits them more to the flop and gives them bad odds if they're drawing to flush.

As played given stacks you have to shove surely and just hope they don't have flush, I wouldn't be happy about it though and overall you've got this decision due to flop mistake.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

I'd raise more on flop, a minraise achieves nothing and tbh quite surprised that you wou would do it.  Raising to £1.50 commits them more to the flop and gives them bad odds if they're drawing to flush. As played given stacks you have to shove surely and just hope they don't have flush, I wouldn't be happy about it though and overall you've got this decision due to flop mistake.
Posted by Dudeskin8

The raise does look small but they have small stacks

What do we achieve by raising to £1.50

With the small raise we can still get there stack on turn, makes it an easy blank turn shove

 

If oppo has FD, we want them to call don’t we

If we raise flop more and FD hits on turn, we sigh call/shove

Dudeskin8

Minraising gives them correct odds to call, £1.50 does not.

Although I'm probably wrong like most times on here lately lol

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

Minraising gives them correct odds to call, £1.50 does not. Although I'm probably wrong like most times on here lately lol
Posted by Dudeskin8

Wouldn’t worry about it, only me and you keeping the clinic alive )

GreekWay

The way you played the hand I would fold here.

I will agree that the min raise on the flop isn't good.I would min raise if I was HU.Against two I would make it around 1.50 as Dudeskin said.If both call or someone reraises get rid of the hand asap.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

The way you played the hand I would fold here. I will agree that the min raise on the flop isn't good.I would min raise if I was HU.Against two I would make it around 1.50 as Dudeskin said.If both call or someone reraises get rid of the hand asap.
Posted by GreekWay

We only raising flop to get it in, never folding be it to £1 or £1.50

even if we raise to £1.50 - the hand plays the same with at least 1 caller
but just makes it a sigh call/shove

maybe even just shove flop lead would be better tbh

Dudeskin8

Yes not sure what Greeky means there but raise-folding mega no-no

GreekWay

Raise to 1.50 on the flop.If called fire another bullet, if called again c/f the river.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

Raise to 1.50 on the flop.If called fire another bullet, if called again c/f the river.
Posted by GreekWay

If you raise to £1.50, oppo's will be commited by turn - check there stacks

if we fire turn then we have to b/c, can't b/f

GreekWay

I have forgotten the stack sizes because I was looking to another post. 

With these stack sizes I would go all-in on the flop in order not to think what to do in latter streets.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

I have forgotten the stack sizes because I was looking to another post.  With these stack sizes I would go all-in on the flop in order not to think what to do in latter streets.
Posted by GreekWay

emmm only if oppo is bad though and will call with worse

GreekWay

If you decide to call the flop, I think going all in is a better solution. Money will go in on the turn or river anyway if you call his flop bet.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL10 - AA - easy call - easy fold?:

If you decide to call the flop, I think going all in is a better solution. Money will go in on the turn or river anyway if you call his flop bet.
Posted by GreekWay

never calling flop bet

like i said, we can only shove flop if oppo is bad enough to call with worse
If oppo is any good they either fold or call with better or 68dd something something ..................
the only worse that calls shove possibly is overpairs :S we don't want  them to fold

I do actually think they would call the shove, but hey ho.......

imbluffing

make it a bigger raise on flop or check all in