A few hands please give opinions

Batkin88

1)Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
SAS10	Small blind		125.00	125.00	7934.50
Batkin88	Big blind		250.00	375.00	9260.00
	Your hole cards	8 9
momomasimo	Fold
potattoooo	Fold
beefy777	Fold
DodgySkag	Raise		750.00	1125.00	935.00
SAS10	Fold
Batkin88	Call		500.00	1625.00	8760.00
Flop
		8 K 5
Batkin88	Check
DodgySkag	All-in		935.00	2560.00	0.00
Batkin88	Call		935.00	3495.00	7825.00
Batkin88	Show	8 9
DodgySkag	Show	K J
Turn
		J
River
		2
DodgySkag	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks	3495.00		3495.00

1)Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
RUNITSRANN	Small blind		400.00	400.00	18232.00
mattiek11	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	11016.50
	Your hole cards	A 6
dichoh	Fold
SAS10	Fold
Batkin88	Raise		2400.00	3600.00	29463.50
momomasimo	Fold
RUNITSRANN	Fold
mattiek11	Call		1600.00	5200.00	9416.50
Flop
		A 7 K
mattiek11	Check
Batkin88	Check
Turn
		Q
mattiek11	Bet		3200.00	8400.00	6216.50
Batkin88	Call		3200.00	11600.00	26263.50
River
		5
mattiek11	Bet		4800.00	16400.00	1416.50
Batkin88	Fold
mattiek11	Muck
mattiek11	Win		11600.00		13016.50
mattiek11	Return		4800.00	0.00	17816.50

3)Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Batkin88	Small blind		400.00	400.00	26263.50
momomasimo	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	13439.25
	Your hole cards	2 6
RUNITSRANN	Fold
mattiek11	Raise		2400.00	3600.00	14616.50
dichoh	Fold
SAS10	Fold
Batkin88	Raise		6400.00	10000.00	19863.50
momomasimo	Fold
mattiek11	Call		4400.00	14400.00	10216.50
Flop
		5 9 8
Batkin88	Bet		14400.00	28800.00	5463.50

4)Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Batkin88	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	54449.50
dichoh	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	55948.84
	Your hole cards	J 10
fozza108	Fold
winner5603	Fold
Nutter5932	Raise		4000.00	7000.00	38007.65
Batkin88	Call		3000.00	10000.00	51449.50
dichoh	Call		2000.00	12000.00	53948.84
Flop
		5 9 K
Batkin88	Check
dichoh	Check
Nutter5932	Check
Turn
		K
Batkin88	Check
dichoh	Check
Nutter5932	Bet		4000.00	16000.00	34007.65
Batkin88	Raise		10000.00

Batkin88

I know hand 3 m,ay look odd but blinds where catching up in the Primo and wanted to try squeeze but once that had failed should i of followed it up?

SHANXTA

1 fold pre, ur defending wiv 9 high vs sum1 wiv 7 bbs

2 if ur gonna open that hand i don't know how u can fold the river when you have under-repped your hand

3 fold pre

4 and fold pre, or 3bet but i reckon u cud prob pick easier spots than doin this vs nutter

Dudeskin8

1. Easy fold pre, calling OOP w/9 high is NEVER going to be profitable. 

2. Raise pre less at 400/800 just minraise, 3x is crazy. Bet flop for value. As played if you call turn river is snap call as biggest brick in bricksville.

3. Snap fold pre. Nice advertsing lol but looks pretty spewy to me, as played the guy can't fold any flop.

4. Raise or fold pre, calling bad. Also chck the oppo one of the best players on the site and you choose to play him OOP lol

rancid

all fold pre


A6 ok to raise but smaller - c/f all streets )

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: A few hands please give opinions:

all fold pre A6 ok to raise but smaller - c/f all streets )
Posted by rancid

Why would he raise with an Ace and fold when he hits TP ?

Batkin88

Ok just to give my thinking behind these hands!! By the way these are all posted as i feel they where my weakest hands in the first half of the tournament.

1) I i hit anything he shoves any flop and i take his stack - Clearly i was wrong and am not going to be doing that again.

2) I raised to steal really pre i dont like min raising ever and probably never will min raise sometimes i will 2.5 it but i prefer doing that in when blinds are a fair bit higher. I think i shoul of c-bet the flop but as played i should of folded turn or called both streets can't really fold to the 5 on the river i think i would of been beat 9/10 here however as he wasn't a very loose player.

3) I don't think you can fold every bad hand pre i set this up by not playing a few hands waiting for posistion and then squeezing he snap called me which in my head made me feel he was set mining or holding AK thats why i c-bet because he cannot call unless he hit. (But i'm not sure wether i should just give up when the squeeze goes wrong thats my issue with this hand not the pre flop action)

4) I had to call pre as dicoh was calling absolutely everything and betting straight out if he hit. With 3 in the hand Nutter had to c-bet with the King and just couldn't give the free card to two players if he held it, i am 1000000% certain dicoh would bet any pair on that board and the turn was the only place i could win this hand as i knew at best nutter had 2nd pair and dicoh had nothing. 

NColley

H1 - really don't know why you are flatting, gonna check fold all missed flops? poor play.

H2 - why open so big, are you looking to get mattiek11 all in pre? given that you called turn how can you fold river?

H3 - its not a squeeze pre there is no cold caller, you are just 3 bet bluffing, forced to cbet because you have commited too much pre.

H4 - what are you trying to make fold, if he flats are you shutting down on the river?

Batkin88

My mistake not a squeeze!

Hand 4 if he flats no i would be firing again as i cannot put him on the king or any better and he is good enough to fold anything less

rancid

In Response to Re: A few hands please give opinions:

In Response to Re: A few hands please give opinions : Why would he raise with an Ace and fold when he hits TP ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

Are you really going all in on the flop with A6, so many hands you can check here so checking top pair is ok imo
maybe b/f is better

Batkin, 3 betting OOP is just scary tbh ) Has oppo been opening a lot for you to do this ?

as for caling nutters btn raise ! are we sure we want to do this v nutter ?
oop for the hand sucks dude

Dudeskin8

@ Ranny - You have 29k oppo has 9.4k so you do the math.

rancid

Like I said c/f all streets

Maybe could b/f flop if smaller pre raise but yeah I c where your coming from

You could easily be ahead but not loving it

Depends how oppo plays you could even c/c a shove

 

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when we raise pre, we fold  to any raise/shove so…..

can’t say we that big to go all the way with this hand

The flop could be not as wet but don’t see why we should go with it as it’s very likely we are dominated!

Dudeskin8

We have top pair, so doesn't that make it less likely someone else has it as well?

Also you can't c/f all streets as you're IP.

For me after the 3x raise pre flop is a very easy b/c, b/f surely can't be an option and if we check then we have to call off turn and river.

Also when you bet they can shove with draws too on a draw heavy board.

rancid

True we are IP,

Like a lot of these hands, depends how oppo is/has been playing

Is oppo likely to make a move at the pot with any heart, yes very likely – so TPNK may be good here

Checked to us on the flop and then leads into us on the turn, seems a bit strong

Folding turn is ok imo

 

Maybe we b/c on flop, but not loving it

 

If your raising A6 pre with a view to stack on a a high flop then at this stage, it’s not correct imo

Just because oppo is shortish and we have a very wet board, is this just a good enough reason to convince ourselves we are good here

 

Dudeskin8

Checked to us on the flop and then leads into us on the turn, seems a bit strong

Folding turn is ok imo

He bets cus we checked behind, pretty basic really as he thinks we have nout or thinks his 2nd/3rd pair is good. 

rancid

Depends how you look at it and what reads we have on oppo

 Is oppo betting 3^rd of stack and folding

Oppo should not, depends how bad oppo is

 

Depends on our line from flop

Are we checking to induce bluff, or shove from worse

 

If’s and buts cause we not been on the table m8ty)

Dudeskin8

If we check flop then fold to turn bet we're playing scared poker IMO.

Batkin88

Thanks i knew these hands would recieve critisism thats why i posted for constructive info thanks i will post more shortly

rancid

Depends how you play a 36bb stack versus a 13 bb stack

 

Think you can apply pressure to the table by raising A6 2.2  but if someone is coming back at you, you have to say emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

Don’t think this is cut n dry,

 

Problem is if we fire flop  then we just have to go with it, does oppo love that with better or call off with worse  - bit 50/50 I guess

Can we c bet flop and fold to a shove, emmm depends

 

Checking flop to induce turn action is ok – shoving turn here is better than calling

 

jakally

Fair play for trying to find spots to get more chips, but some of these moves are losing plays given the stack sizes.

First hand, you cannot possibly show a profit calling a raise from a <10BB stack with 9 high, even if they are raising with any two cards.

When you 3b with 62o, you are doing it against a 20BB stack.

If we are 3 betting a 20BB stack, we should have enough of a hand to call it off if we get shoved on (it's burning chips to 3b fold to this stack size), or to have a chance of flopping ok if we get called.

The JTo hand, we are not deep enough (again 20BB's effective) to be calling opens OOP with J high, against a good player.

Against less skilled players, you may get away with some of these moves, but better to get into good habits.

beaneh

1) Fold pre he is too shallow to do anything. I'd rather go ai than peel and try and hit at least see all the cards if you fancy a punt.

2) Raise size can be smaller. 1800 is fine. Check back flop is fine, now call turn AND river when non FD cards come out imo. 

3) We don't have enough chips to be 3betting and then giving up, so I like betting the flop but I don't like betting pot with a tiny bit back. Would rather bet 1/2pot or 2/3 and call it off with our gutter and an embarrassed look. If we have 25-30 bbs effective with the opener then i'd be more happy to 3b and just be giving up if called.

4) I'd fold the JT pre with 20bb stacks and oop. Although an active bb is a good reason to play more hands. As for the turn c/r I like it it's hard to see how the pfr ever has a K after checking back a K high fd board, the problem is if we get called you have to fire again, definitely fire all hearts/Qs/low cards. Spades are more of a worry if the pfr bet calls but even then we'll have J high so have to probably fire again. Note the pot size will be if i'm reading it right nearly 50k and we started with 50k and have put in 14k already so we'd have to be jamming the river which is obviously risky.