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What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?

DragonbabeDragonbabe
edited January 2012 in Poker Chat
Bit by bit all the £2.30 and £2.40 tourneys are being replaced by £5 plus poker tourneys.  A lot of us like to play but cannot afford to play 2 or 3 £5 plus tourneys a night. I love playing the 20:05 £600 Bounty Hunter - this has now disappeared.

I have always defended Sky Poker when people tell me its just a money making machine, but I am now beginning to believe them - they are taking away all th low money tourneys.
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  • Yorkie74Yorkie74
    edited January 2012
    In Response to What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Bit by bit all the £2.30 and £2.40 tourneys are being replaced by £5 plus poker tourneys.  A lot of us like to play but cannot afford to play 2 or 3 £5 plus tourneys a night. I love playing the 20:05 £600 Bounty Hunter - this has now disappeared. I have always defended Sky Poker when people tell me its just a money making machine, but I am now beginning to believe them - they are taking away all th low money tourneys.
    Posted by Dragonbabe
    I also like the 8.05 bh tournament and disappointed to see it has disappeared.  Is this permanent???
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  • chris1963chris1963
    edited January 2012
    Sky forget the smaller players right across the board in my opinion, cash 4 points (no more freerolls for 250 - 499 points  above 2/4p cash happy hour,  and now smaller buy in tourneys going by the wayside.


    Oh to have bigger bankrolls eh?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited January 2012
    Wouldn't class myself as a microstakes player (yet) but I agree with all above posts, it's just so wrong.

    Esepcially as the micro guys have to pay more rake. 

    Thing is there will always be tonnes of micro players who will contine to play and not know any different, they're prob new to poker (or new to online poker) so they can get away with whatever they want really. 

    The dym rake @ micros situation is criminal. 

    The happy hour excluding nl4 probably more so.


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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Wouldn't class myself as a microstakes player (yet) but I agree with all above posts, it's just so wrong. Esepcially as the micro guys have to pay more rake.  Thing is there will always be tonnes of micro players who will contine to play and not know any different, they're prob new to poker (or new to online poker) so they can get away with whatever they want really.  The dym rake @ micros situation is criminal.  The happy hour excluding nl4 probably more so.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Completely agree.

    I cannot think of one possible reason for why they would not include 4NL in the happy hour (not a good one anyway), and yeah the rake at low stakes DYMs is scandalous.

    I didn't realise low stakes tourneys were disappearing though, that's crazy. They better not get rid of the £1 and £2 deepstacks!
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  • TRIP5TRIP5
    edited January 2012
    Also.. bring back the late night £1.10.. 

    I used to love those donk fests ;o))

    xx
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  • TINTINTINTIN
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Wouldn't class myself as a microstakes player (yet) but I agree with all above posts, it's just so wrong. Esepcially as the micro guys have to pay more rake.  Thing is there will always be tonnes of micro players who will contine to play and not know any different, they're prob new to poker (or new to online poker) so they can get away with whatever they want really.  The dym rake @ micros situation is criminal.  The happy hour excluding nl4 probably more so.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    ive missed out on a fair few by them not including nl4 in the happy hour but i aint going higher to chase them
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  • scouse_redscouse_red
    edited January 2012
    In Response to What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Bit by bit all the £2.30 and £2.40 tourneys are being replaced by £5 plus poker tourneys.  A lot of us like to play but cannot afford to play 2 or 3 £5 plus tourneys a night. I love playing the 20:05 £600 Bounty Hunter - this has now disappeared. I have always defended Sky Poker when people tell me its just a money making machine, but I am now beginning to believe them - they are taking away all th low money tourneys.
    Posted by Dragonbabe

    Hi there, I think this must have been an oversight testerday, may have head something to do with all the new timed tourneys starting, and I notice that both the 7.45 £1.10 DS and the 8.05 £2.30BH are back in the lobby tonight

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  • ZedsDeadBaZedsDeadBa
    edited January 2012
    Even if its a purely business measure, discouraging newbies, micro players, and small BR's haniging around seems incredibly short sighted at best, and uber stupid at worst!

    After all, almost all the money is filtered upwards and through to sky from these levels anyway!

    You'd think more entrance level players, not less, would be the way to go?

    The more I learn about the game and the cost of playing. the more I look at how other poker rooms compare.

    Not that anyone gives a monkeys about that I'm sure,..... just my two pennies worth.

    Z.
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  • cleaverjimcleaverjim
    edited January 2012
    why do us 2/4 players get no happy hour????????REVOLT!!!!!!!!!!
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  • cleaverjimcleaverjim
    edited January 2012

    ING

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  • cleaverjimcleaverjim
    edited January 2012
    In all fairness tho sky why do happy hour 5p/10p and up?Hardly fare!.Also could you run more mini torns as they seem really good for smaller stake players.One idea could be more 10 handed tables?
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  • GlenelgGlenelg
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    In Response to What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys? : Hi there, I think this must have been an oversight testerday, may have head something to do with all the new timed tourneys starting, and I notice that both the 7.45 £1.10 DS and the 8.05 £2.30BH are back in the lobby tonight
    Posted by scouse_red
    I usually play the 20:05BH I don't think it runs on a Thurs nite cos of the mini BH starting at 20:15?
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  • Yorkie74Yorkie74
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys? : I usually play the 20:05BH I don't think it runs on a Thurs nite cos of the mini BH starting at 20:15?
    Posted by Glenelg
    It does run on a Thursday usually.  It runs every day.

    Nice to see it back tonight :o)
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Wouldn't class myself as a microstakes player (yet) but I agree with all above posts, it's just so wrong. Esepcially as the micro guys have to pay more rake.  Thing is there will always be tonnes of micro players who will contine to play and not know any different, they're prob new to poker (or new to online poker) so they can get away with whatever they want really.  The dym rake @ micros situation is criminal.  The happy hour excluding nl4 probably more so.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    It's bad at every stake, on other sites i've played it's 8% :/

    Many times it's made me think of moving, Sky are not going to increase as much as they like with the above standard rake.
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail
    edited January 2012
    EVEN WORSE their excuse for having 75p rake on the £5 bounty hunters... Because they are popular or whatever, they are restricting their growth of regular players.
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  • barnsiebarnsie
    edited January 2012
    all the time you all still play them they will keep the ridic rake charges especially on such a low edge game like dym's
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  • TINTINTINTIN
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    all the time you all still play them they will keep the ridic rake charges especially on such a low edge game like dym's
    Posted by barnsie
    it doesnt matter what tpe of game you play at low levels the rake is increased. NL4 NL8 and i think NL10( would have to double check last 1) at raked at 7.5% in cash games. dym are raked 15%  20%, n bounty hunters run at 15%
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  • hogan2089hogan2089
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys? : it doesnt matter what tpe of game you play at low levels the rake is increased. NL4 NL8 and i think NL10( would have to double check last 1) at raked at 7.5% in cash games. dym are raked 15%  20%, n bounty hunters run at 15%
    Posted by TINTIN[/QUOTand Barnsies point is  , if  people  didnt play them , then they would  have to look at enticing  low end players  in witha  better rake ...so ure point  is ??
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited January 2012
    Whoa I didn't no that about 75p at the £5 BH... I don't really play many MTTs so don't even look at them in the lobby. But that is scandalous and an outragous reason for it.
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  • wenelinhowenelinho
    edited January 2012
    Wow amazing how many people are angry at this, the high rake at the low tourneys i can live with but the fact that micro players dont get in on the happy hour is a complete joke.  Should be for all or none.

    Its a shame because this site has got so many things right but i have to say this is really annoying me, why should i be less entitled to the happy hour. 

    also I wonder why none of the sky team have responded to this thread?  im sure all the people playing the nl4 and 8 would like to know why we are excluded.

    Anyway i have to point out that this isnt a complete bit*" at the site like i have said they have done so may things right, but sky would do well to remember that many of the players only play at the low levels and im sure make up a large number of players on the site.




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  • SwogSwog
    edited January 2012
    I agree totally with most things said here, im what they call a 'regular' at  NL4, i like the website the community, the customer service, but this did also bug me a little. Even worse is when us micro stakes players put our word across via a thread like this, none of our opinions seem to get considered, selective hearing i guess. Say this was a thread from a high stakes player voicing his concern about something, i can bet my bottom dollar his issues would be rectfied by next time he logs on. If there was a reason why micro stakes players are overlooked that we could be told, i'd fully appreciate it and carry on as normal. I also do appreciate that Sky is a business and of course wants to accomodate or those paying the most rake. But without micro stakes players i don't think they have a business!
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited January 2012
    I'd be interested to know the difference in rake paid by the different stakes, I know that low stakes would never compete with high stakes but it's gotta level the scales a tiny bit that 200NL might have 5 tables running at one time, and 4NL has like 50 tables going at once.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    i think you pay a higher rake at the lower levels because they get a better class of dealer, the tables are nicer and the cards are newer. (its what i heard!)
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    i think you pay a higher rake at the lower levels because they get a better class of dealer, the tables are nicer and the cards are newer. (its what i heard!)
    Posted by pod1
    I thought it was to cover the costs of keeping the rig-o-meter going, myself.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited January 2012
    Yeah you do pay higher rake at the lower levels and I'm sure that's why Pod lol, but I meant like as a total cash amount...

    Like 200NL tables might bring in say £20,000 of rake weekly (complete gues, i have no idea)

    I'd be interested to know what 4NL brings in, bearing in mind there's about 10 times more tables running and we have to pay a higher rake at this level. I'm not saying it would equal that of the high stakes but it must certainly be enough to make it worthwhile for Sky to listen and provide the absolute basics like happy hour for all.

    Especially considering (as many have already said) as we all know, the money from poker all comes from the bottom up, so more guys playing at the low stakes WILL mean more that end up playing higher stakes and creating more rake for Sky, and enticing more players to the site.
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  • pod1pod1
    edited January 2012
    someone has to sit there and count all those 2ps up at the end of the night as well, not a nice job. ps wouldnt fancy carrying that lot to the local hsbc (other banks are avaliable) on a monday morning. it all adds up!
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  • TRIP5TRIP5
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    I agree totally with most things said here, im what they call a 'regular' at  NL4, i like the website the community, the customer service, but this did also bug me a little. Even worse is when us micro stakes players put our word across via a thread like this, none of our opinions seem to get considered, selective hearing i guess. Say this was a thread from a high stakes player voicing his concern about something, i can bet my bottom dollar his issues would be rectfied by next time he logs on. If there was a reason why micro stakes players are overlooked that we could be told, i'd fully appreciate it and carry on as normal. I also do appreciate that Sky is a business and of course wants to accomodate or those paying the most rake. But without micro stakes players i don't think they have a business!
    Posted by Swog

    Sorry swog, but thats not actually true!!

    The fact is this thread will, at some point be sent upstairs for someone to look at, tbf I dont think any other poker room anywhere listen to their players more..

    xx

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  • belsibubbelsibub
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    Yeah you do pay higher rake at the lower levels and I'm sure that's why Pod lol, but I meant like as a total cash amount... Like 200NL tables might bring in say £20,000 of rake weekly (complete gues, i have no idea) I'd be interested to know what 4NL brings in, bearing in mind there's about 10 times more tables running and we have to pay a higher rake at this level. I'm not saying it would equal that of the high stakes but it must certainly be enough to make it worthwhile for Sky to listen and provide the absolute basics like happy hour for all. Especially considering (as many have already said) as we all know, the money from poker all comes from the bottom up, so more guys playing at the low stakes WILL mean more that end up playing higher stakes and creating more rake for Sky, and enticing more players to the site.
    Posted by Lambert180
    This might interest you Lambert old discussion on micro cash rake  Re: cash games rake:
    You will see most of the time you are paying a lot more than 7.5% at nl4.
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  • wenelinhowenelinho
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: What is happening to all the low priced poker tourneys?:
    I agree totally with most things said here, im what they call a 'regular' at  NL4, i like the website the community, the customer service, but this did also bug me a little. Even worse is when us micro stakes players put our word across via a thread like this, none of our opinions seem to get considered, selective hearing i guess. Say this was a thread from a high stakes player voicing his concern about something, i can bet my bottom dollar his issues would be rectfied by next time he logs on. If there was a reason why micro stakes players are overlooked that we could be told, i'd fully appreciate it and carry on as normal. I also do appreciate that Sky is a business and of course wants to accomodate or those paying the most rake. But without micro stakes players i don't think they have a business!
    Posted by Swog
    this is exactly what i was thinking i might go on the ask tikay page and ask him to take a look at this thread maybe he can send it upstairs and possibly get a response.

    Or should we just keep moaning in silence and see how long it takes to get a response what you guys think?


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  • wenelinhowenelinho
    edited January 2012



    MICRO POWER 

    :p
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