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Conflict of interests?

edited January 2012 in Poker Chat


Wasn't sure where to put this post and not sure it will stay in general poker chat for long either, but...

With the recent problem regarding Virgin Media servers having technical difficulties and being unable to connect to the Sky servers, would this account for a few of the 'glitches' every now and again on Sky Poker if say your ISP was virgin? ie. Virgin would ensure their products/services were ok before any other 3rd party services. Would this also account for some LAG every now and again?

I have asked a few engineering people over the w/end, and not really had a clear cut answer.

I have not got a clue about any of this stuff btw, and I am genuinely interested in the view of others on this subject. It is also a very rare serious post off me and would appreciate the same in return.
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  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Conflict of interests?:
    Wasn't sure where to put this post and not sure it will stay in general poker chat for long either, but... With the recent problem regarding Virgin Media servers having technical difficulties and being unable to connect to the Sky servers, would this account for a few of the 'glitches' every now and again on Sky Poker if say your ISP was virgin? ie. Virgin would ensure their products/services were ok before any other 3rd party services. Would this also account for some LAG every now and again? I have asked a few engineering people over the w/end, and not really had a clear cut answer. I have not got a clue about any of this stuff btw, and I am genuinely interested in the view of others on this subject. It is also a very rare serious post off me and would appreciate the same in return.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    QFT


  • edited January 2012
    The only clear way to find out if you're having a connectivity issue to a particular server would be to find out the server IP Address and perform a trace route/mtr test and check for any packet loss along the route.

    When you're experiencing these glitches are you finding any other problems with your connection?

    I'm also on Virgin Media and haven't experienced any problems myself recently.

    James
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    The only clear way to find out if you're having a connectivity issue to a particular server would be to find out the server IP Address and perform a trace route/mtr test and check for any packet loss along the route. When you're experiencing these glitches are you finding any other problems with your connection? I'm also on Virgin Media and haven't experienced any problems myself recently. James
    Posted by DeaDFl0P

    When their servers went down, it was still possible to connect to the internet but not to Sky Poker.

    I also play on 'another' on line poker site and very very rarely have any connection issues but I am experiencing more and more with Sky Poker than I ever did before and I am wondering if this is a major factor why.

  • edited January 2012
    For the last while  i keep getting a pop up with gate-way error or something like that on it.DL dies but can still access other web services i am on sky bb.Just playing free tables just now until it stops :-(.
  • edited January 2012
    I can't give you a 100% definite answer but I very much doubt they would do anything like that.

    It's of little interest to them what you're doing online as long as it's legal and you're not using way too much bandwidth every month.

    They just want you to remain happy with their services so you stay loyal to them.

    The connection from your house to get to Sky Poker will go through many servers, it would take alot of effort for them to cause problems intentionally somewhere.

  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Conflict of interests?:
    Wasn't sure where to put this post and not sure it will stay in general poker chat for long either, but... With the recent problem regarding Virgin Media servers having technical difficulties and being unable to connect to the Sky servers, would this account for a few of the 'glitches' every now and again on Sky Poker if say your ISP was virgin? ie. Virgin would ensure their products/services were ok before any other 3rd party services. Would this also account for some LAG every now and again? I have asked a few engineering people over the w/end, and not really had a clear cut answer. I have not got a clue about any of this stuff btw, and I am genuinely interested in the view of others on this subject. It is also a very rare serious post off me and would appreciate the same in return.
    Posted by MAXALLY

    Bet you're a hoot to hang around with on a weekend ;o))

    Can I come to the next party?

    xx

  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    In Response to Conflict of interests? : Bet you're a hoot to hang around with on a weekend ;o)) Can I come to the next party? xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    Shall be staying well clear of Al's Bar from now on... 51ers must have been going in there IMO



    *looks at skip* >when did maxxy get technical...
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests? : Shall be staying well clear of Al's Bar from now on... 51ers must have been going in there IMO *looks at skip* />when did maxxy get technical...
    Posted by samantha25

    Didn't stop his 88p contribution to the £20,012.00 challenge though..............................
  • edited January 2012
    I don't think that thers any conspiracy behind it. It was just one of those unfortunate things. I've been a Virgin BB customer for about 6 years and its only the 3rd time I have lost connection. The first 2 were full loss of internet and only lasted a couple of hours. Virgin and Sky carry each others channels and if Virgin have a crash like they did the other week the urgency to get their problems sorted would far outweigh any theory about game plans.
    The only other glitch I experienced since being on Sky poker from March last year was the other night which was a Sky problem and nothing to do with Virgin. I was back online within 5 -7 minutes
  • edited January 2012
    hi maxally
    i have been having connection problems myself
    over the past week or so,
    but it is only with sky poker
    and not my internet connection.
    i am with sky broadband,and 2 b honest,
    only had a handfull of disconnections
    since being with them for 6 months or more now.

    been getting "network error" coming up
    so think the problem deffo is with sky poker.

    hope this may be of some help.
    cheers 

    devon
  • edited January 2012
    hi max i to used to have virgin broadband but switched to sky about 4 years ago.but thisl week and over the weekend when ever i try to connect to sky poker i have massive promblems.even the sky poker download would not work or even connect,when using sky poker through my browser i stay connected for about 10 mins then it suddenly goes to my msn home page.just happenedagain while typing this post help :(:(:(
  • edited January 2012
    I get network error quite a bit, usually when skypoker is running. tilts the hell out of me last night missed first 10 mins of primo because of it. WBN if someone had a clue wat i can do to sort out
  • edited January 2012
    I have been getting network error coming up everynow and then for weeks but there is no problem.

    I can still do everything on the site fine I just have to keep clicking the pop up to get rid of it.
  • edited January 2012
    i to get network error coming up,when it hapenns my table will freeze and i have to sigh out and start over again :(:(:(also the little green boxs that run across the bottom of the page take forever,so i end up having to shut sky poker down,not sure if that makes any sence,what im trying to say is the green line that tells me the page is loading takes so long.
  • edited January 2012
    heck i think i just need a new computer
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    Is there any ports that need to be opened on your router, perhaps? Just a thought.
    Posted by EvilPingu

    Expand please....like I have said, I know nothing about all this techno stuff.

    Hence that is why I have not commented on the other technical issues posted in this thread, sorry folks.

    (and deliberately ignored the stupid ones!)
  • edited January 2012
    Don't be opening ports if you don't know what you're doing.

    Besides you shouldn't need to anyway.

    I'd personally be ringing Virgin up and see if you can get a clearer picture of what's happening.

  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests? : Expand please....like I have said, I know nothing about all this techno stuff. Hence that is why I have not commented on the other technical issues posted in this thread, sorry folks. (and deliberately ignored the stupid ones!)
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Wasn't actually referring to the OP, should've probably quoted the guys having the "Network Error" thing pop up all the time.

    Deleted my post as I wasn't 100% sure I was right, I found the link below but I'm still not 100% sure whether this is the right thing or not. Different error message ofc but might still be fixed by opening the ports in the link below.

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby/getting-started/connection-problems

    Rather than doing what it says there, I prefer to type "192.168.1.1" in my browser (this allows you to access router settings), look for Port Forwarding and do it that way.
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    Don't be opening ports if you don't know what you're doing. Besides you shouldn't need to anyway. I'd personally be ringing Virgin up and see if you can get a clearer picture of what's happening.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    ^ Seconded, only do it if you know what you're doing. Link I just posted does suggest opening ports 1500 and 843, but I haven't and I've not had too many issues.
  • edited January 2012
    Yeah that's if you can't connect at all, not for intermittent connection problems.
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    Yeah that's if you can't connect at all, not for intermittent connection problems.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    I'll leave this thread alone, I'm probably just going to get everything wrong and confuse people if I keep posting, lol
  • edited January 2012
    ok explain this,ok my pc is old and i no it will run slow,but it is just sky  poker where i am getting a problem.my husband has a top of the range laptop with all the security features you can think of because he run,s his own business.but even his laptop is having problems with skypoker.we have sky broadband
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    ok explain this,ok my pc is old and i no it will run slow,but it is just sky  poker where i am getting a problem.my husband has a top of the range laptop with all the security features you can think of because he run,s his own business.but even his laptop is having problems with skypoker.we have sky broadband
    Posted by paige55
    I'd probably look at the network first. Are you using (I know I go on about it but I hate it) wireless?

    Age isn't always a problem. I can have any PC I want but even mine is 10 years old and runs superbly.


  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests?:
    In Response to Re: Conflict of interests? : I'd probably look at the network first. Are you using (I know I go on about it but I hate it) wireless? Age isn't always a problem. I can have any PC I want but even mine is 10 years old and runs superbly.
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    Glory be.
  • edited January 2012
    ops sorry if i upset anyone with my post,yes it can run on wireless.also have sky talk, talk. sky tv, sky sports sky movies :):):)
  • edited January 2012
    If you can try it for a while 'wired' (even if it means dragging a long wire through the house) and see how it performs. Or even try one of those 'powerline' setups, which is wired but via the mains. That's the first thing I'd do.

  • edited January 2012
    My top tip is to close the lobby after your games have started. The script causes my games to lag, but if i click through onto the community or off of skypoker then the games run fine.
  • edited January 2012
    ok will do husband is an electrican so maybe he can do something,thanks for the info :):):)
  • edited January 2012
    Just to clarify some of the points about opening ports etc posted earlier on, those are Outbound ports. Generally hardware routers/firewalls allow all outbound traffic. Only Inbound traffic is restricted.

    Don't open these ports inbound on your hardware firewall/router, it's unnecessary and you shouldn't open non-required ports inbound as it could potentially pose a security risk.

    It's only usually software based firewalls like the Windows firewall or those by other vendors such as Norton where you need to open outbound ports. If they were closed I would expect you would not be able to establish a connection to Sky Poker full stop, i.e. it would be a problem all the time not just intermittently.

    As I say to find a connection issue you need to run a trace to the destination, but this will require a bit of knowledge to complete.
    You'd need to find the IP Address of the destination your connecting to, you can do this using the following command from a cmd prompt (on windows):

    netstat -aon

    You have to narrow down the address from the foreign address port numbers listed (80, 443, 1500, 843)

    When you've found the address from the list that is spewed out you then need to run a tracert/mtr to check for packet loss along the route, this may help identify where the problem could be.
    It's unlikely the problem would be within Sky's network since this would likely affect the majority of users, unless of course it's an intermittent bug in the software.

    Sorry that isn't going to be the simplest of tasks for most users.

    But to re-iterate DON'T open ports unnecessarily!

    James
  • edited January 2012


    Cheers for that James.....any chance you could pop round? lol.

    <<totally gone over my head>>
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