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£1.10 Deepy - 1st level with TPTK + NFD facing some action.
Dream flop, even with play before me I'm all in right ?
| esher7510 | Small blind | 10.00 | 10.00 | 4990.00 | |
| WILLCHRIS | Big blind | 20.00 | 30.00 | 4980.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| 12luna | Call | 20.00 | 50.00 | 4980.00 | |
| Dudeskin8 | Raise | 100.00 | 150.00 | 4900.00 | |
| Tynian | Fold | ||||
| findy | Call | 100.00 | 250.00 | 4900.00 | |
| esher7510 | Fold | ||||
| WILLCHRIS | Call | 80.00 | 330.00 | 4900.00 | |
| 12luna | Call | 80.00 | 410.00 | 4900.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| WILLCHRIS | Check | ||||
| 12luna | Check | ||||
| Dudeskin8 | Bet | 307.50 | 717.50 | 4592.50 | |
| findy | Raise | 1340.00 | 2057.50 | 3560.00 | |
| WILLCHRIS | Call | 1340.00 | 3397.50 | 3560.00 | |
| 12luna | Call | 1340.00 | 4737.50 | 3560.00 | |
| Dudeskin8 | |||||
Comments
makes the decision harder but theres loads in the pot, so why not take a spin lol
its a 1 quid donkament whats the worst that could happen?
100% SHOVE TOP PAIR AND NUT FLUSH DRAW YOUR DOUBLING OR TRIPPLING UP IF ANY DIAMOND COMES IN SOMEONE HAS TRIPS SO MY ONLY WORRY APART FROM MISSING THE DIAMOND IS HITTING THE DIAMOND FIST PUMPING THEN REALISING THEVE RIVERED THE FULL HOUSE.
WHICH IM GUESSING HAS HAPPENED
Obv getting as much of stack in where we have most perceived equity.
Opponents dont have to have massive hands at this level, we all know the type. Avoid decisions @ turn, Ship it, guarentee two cards. Go get a biscuit, come back see how it played out.
This is the kind of hand/action I used to overthink.
Ultimately just get as much in there on flop with high equity, if you dont have the best hand, w/e just generate a huge stack early doors with outs to the nuts.
Dont know what the plan would be at turn if we flat and am never folding. Generate a 1400bb pot and own the T. This in itself is reason enough to ship.
Versus this level of oppo I don’t see how you fold- just shove, versus better oppo it’s an easy fold tbh
horrible spot btw )
Got tbh I get it in on flop here at a tonne of lvls, for reasons in my post above. Even factoring in FE and hands we are likely to be called by.
However at a higher lvl the pot wouldnt be so inflated on flop with the super light calls of the big raise, allowing poker to be played rather than a shipping fest.
But if it played the same at all my standard Touney BI's I'm pretty sure I'd still be happy to get it in, prob more so as a 1400bb stack could be used more effectively.
Hold or improve, dont really mind. Generating such a ridic super stack early on would be my only goal in this hand.
We have no FE here
The calls pre flop are ok tbh given stack sizes - 66, one had 87dd, other 43o.
Think we are probably 40% here , we are only ever behind to a set so…….
Maybe not a get it in spot ____
Maybe stove it and see what equity we have
I am deliriously happy getting it in here as 40% to win a likely 1400BB pot. In this particular spot this would be my only focus.
Being happy with the scenario which ever way it went.
Dont want people to fold flop, even if it were a much bigger game, but as said it wouldnt play this way.
We can crunch the numbers as much as we want here. Once the pot has inflated this much multi way with everyone having a piece and being invested I have no issue getting it in against any of their range given eventual likely pot size.
Its very rare you'll be in a spot to gain such an overwhelming chip lead in a field with such high equity. You have to take it IMO. Even in a much bigger game.
Probably commited to the shove if two call tbh- how can we turn it down when stack to pot ratio is.......
Kinda commited :S 3/1 so------------ shoving is fine ) i thinks, no number crunching just using my gut __!
Kind of want to preserve my Tlife and am never going to be ahead when jamming i donk think. Prob a fold IMO.
No point generating the superstack just to go bust.
If they all call a shove then I think shove is ok, but looking again our equity is more like 30% at best v range that includes a set
Shove may be marginal and a fold is ok ----
Would like to see more educated replies than my own tbh
edit: anyone considering calling, may be ok
Maybe even c/c or c/r flop is the better line here
Personally I hate flatting flop, leaves us in a world of hurt and doubt at turn + also lets people get away easier.
Only reason I can think that I would ever show any caution or hesitation is if I was massively under rolled.
Emmm if we figure were behind to a set and other hands are Qx hands or draws then if we are getting the right direct odds + implied then a call is fine
Checking flop imo has merits for c/r or c/c
Essentially I don’t think we need to lead with TPTK + FD
But on the occasion we do lead then we never fold, so it’s flat or shove
Shoving with no FE is never good with this much equity, while calling seems like the better option
Also I don’t think we can consider the stack to pot ratio + odds as we can only be certain of one caller after we shove - not like we are calling and can consider our stack to pot and our equity in winning the hand